Poll: Scooped Mids vs. Boosted Mids
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Scooped Mids (for Metal)
66 34%
Boosted Mids (for Metal)
130 66%
Voters: 196.
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#1
I was just curious what the Gear forum thought about metal tones. I love boosted mids in my tones, in fact the Graphic EQ on my Mark III has an inverted V. The reason I love mids, is because it really tightens up the tone, and gives it a kind of growl. Discuss
#2
depends on what you are going for I guess
I usually go with about 4 on my mids, with bass and treb at 7-8. sometimes Ill scoop my mids completely out/very low, and other times Ill bring it right up - depends on what "metal" im playing.

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#3
i love mids in my sound. it makes it ROAR.
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#4
scooping mids IMO doesnt let you cut through enough...
im at about 9 o clock, with a sonic maximizer tightening it up so i tend to rock it back more toards 8 or 7
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#6
Quote by Tyler Durden
depends on what you are going for I guess
I usually go with about 4 on my mids, with bass and treb at 7-8. sometimes Ill scoop my mids completely out/very low, and other times Ill bring it right up - depends on what "metal" im playing.


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i love mids in my sound. it makes it ROAR.

Exactly. I use alot of mids for mainly Prog leads/rhythm and for Thrash leads/rhythm. I love tightness, and mids bring all the tightness I could ever want.
#9
depends on what it sounds like for the song
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#10
Quote by ilovemySG
scooping mids IMO doesnt let you cut through enough...
im at about 9 o clock, with a sonic maximizer tightening it up so i tend to rock it back more toards 8 or 7

What does a Sonic Maximizer do, exactly??? What is it like an EQ????
#11
Also depends on the amp. With my old line 6 spider 2 I had to throw in some mids. I couldnt keep them completely scooped and get a decent sound
#12
scooped. typically of course
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#13
it totally depends on what amp you have. Some amps have a LOT of mids. So turning them on 3 or 4 will cut through the mix fine. And if you turn the mids on those amps to far you lose that heavy tone. On other amps you need them higher.

On a 6505 I keep my mids on about 3 or 4. IT cuts over the drummer and works out great. Because the 6505 is very middy. If I turn them up to 8 I lose my heavy tone and it sounds twangy. But it still sounds heavier than a lot of amps up that high.

You need to set your amp high and low and see what you like. When in a band mix I always start out low and slowly move up until I am cutting through good. So I use as less mids as possible with still cutting.
#15
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I have one amp scooped and one mid heavy.. Best of both worlds

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#16
As far as my personal tone goes when im playing with my band, I like boosted mids. I love the growl. but I'll play a lotta riffyrifffy stuff, with alot of leadwork, and i think it fits nice.

The other guys I jam with on occasion outside of the band prefer the scooped tone, because its a very dark, droptuned kind of thing. And I think if you want a darker "groove-ier" sound then the scooped mids work better.
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#17
I never scoop mids... I always keep them around 5 or 6... Enough for my guitar to cut through the mix without getting a harsh sound
#18
it changes for me. in my room i use an inverted V on the graphic eq, but when jamming i really have to cut out the mids or else the amp gets super honky and boxy.

which is weird because it's usually the other way around
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#19
Depends on the amp, but I prefer a mids down (yet not totally scooped) tone to a boosted mid tone. The amps I use are already mid heavy enough that I don't need to jack them to the roof in order to cut.
#20
I keep em at 7 or 8, for everything from prog rock to death metal , I love me some mids
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#21
Depends on the amp. When i scoop my rockerverb, it still has more mids than when i boost the mids on my 6505.
But i like pretty much mids in my tone.
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#22
Quote by Tyler Durden
depends on what you are going for I guess
I usually go with about 4 on my mids, with bass and treb at 7-8. sometimes Ill scoop my mids completely out/very low, and other times Ill bring it right up - depends on what "metal" im playing.


This.
#23
If i'm playing a solid state, I usually scoop the mids when using lots of distortion to stop it sounding mushy. I have never heard a solid state that sounds good with lots of mids + distortion.
My Tiny terror is the other way round, lots and lots of mids, cos they sound nice.
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#24
i scoop for trash metal for that aggressive, harsh tone, but for death metal i use dimed mids for the aggressive yet smooth tone.

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#25
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i scoop for trash metal for that aggressive, harsh tone, but for death metal i use dimed mids for the aggressive yet smooth tone.

Really? I like boosted mids for thrash for that tight, growly tone.
#26
Boosting hte mids tightens your sound? I've always experienced the opposite.
#27
Graphic eq!

I scoop the lower mids, boost the upper mids. Aggressive 'metal' tone, but still cuts through and retains clarity.
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#28
i'm a kind of anti-high end person, but i keep my mids on 5 on my amp. i'll never push them more than 5 though regardless of the music i'm playing.
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#29
i used scooped mids for non metal type things. i scoop mids for my clean sound. not too much of course.
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#30
mids are essential for my tone.
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#31
I love the brutal sound of scooped mids, but it doesn't cut through at all
#32
I keep my mids at about 7-8 for a "bigger" and more "open" tone, but when I start to play more technical styles of Metal, I'll bring them back to around 4-5.
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#33
TS, you've already stated that you like the sound of boosted Mids, why ask UG their opinion? most of UG is full of idiots anyway, If you like it do it, Personally I cringe at the sound of mids at 3 or below, its really a disgusting kind of sound.
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#34
If I have to sound like a certain metal artist (which is rare) who scoops his or her mids, I'll scoop 'em. Other than that, they're always boosted.
#35
yeah on solid states the settings are much different than a tube amp. I use way more highs and less mids on a solid state amp. On a tube amp I don't use near the highs and not as much mids.
#36
Quote by al112987
Boosting hte mids tightens your sound? I've always experienced the opposite.


Yeah, same here. Too much mids = honky tone.
#37
I love the lowest mids and medium mids.
Not a fan of higher mids.

Thats why im getting a big ass EQ so i can get a super detailed spectrum to work with.
My Bass is usually on 8 and treble at 3 or 4, presance depending.
#38
Quote by metallicafan616
i scoop for trash metal for that aggressive, harsh tone, but for death metal i use dimed mids for the aggressive yet smooth tone.


You must have one hell of an amp to use the opposite settings of tube amps that I know of to get that sound. That said, I boost my mids or at least set them past 12 o clock for thrash.
Last edited by laurens666 at Feb 13, 2009,
#39
i keep around 6, bass 8, and treble like 2. for some reason, my amp is really trebly, and it annoys me. my mids are just normal, not really scooped or boosted, but if i had to choose id say boosted
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#40
Quote by laurens666
You must have one hell of an amp to use the opposite settings of tube amps that I know of to get that sound. That said, I boost my mids or at least set them past 12 o clock for thrash.


Yeah... I suspect there's a lot of bullsh*t in this thread as it's not currently cool to say anything other than I boost my mids on the internet right now.
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