#1
I've spent hours trying to dial in a good punk/metalcore tone, but I just can't seem to hit this nail on the head, so I'm finally just going to beg for UG's help.

Essentially, what I can't ever seem to find is that nice hi-gain, but smooth lead tone in a lot of 'core and punk solos and riffs (think the lead parts in Alexisonfire's "Hey it's Your Funeral Mama" or verses in This Could Be Anywhere in the World, Rise Against songs like Long Forgotten Sons or even Seventy Times Seven By Brand New).

Between my Jazz Chorus and DN-2 Dyna Drive I can certainly push a nice amount of air, but even with a bit of reverb and even a tad of tone rolled off I can only seem to get it to go one of two ways – either rough, abrasive and ear splitting (a nice rhythm tone actually) or too subdued, not enough highs and unlikely to cut through in a mix.

Someone care to enlighten me? Where am I going wrong? What's stopping me from having that pleasant roundess to my hi-gain leads? Are there any good articles on punk tone that you can show me?

TL;DR – my lead tone sucks when I crank my settings, can only get good rhythm tone
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#3
Punk =/= lead. Really The Clash are/were the only punk band with a two-guitar lineup. If you must though, buy a MIM telecaster. Their underrated guitars, and really they cut through as lead instruments in all genres IMO.
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#4
Not to sound like a snob, but I LOL every time someone asks a question about "punk" playing.
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Not to sound like a snob, but I LOL every time someone asks a question about "punk" playing.
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dude give him a break. he's not asking about how to make a ****ing his guitar punk or something he's asking about tone. and if you don't want to help him don't post on his thread
#6
To the people that are saying "punk has no leads" in this thread, melodic hardcore punk and some pop punk actually have leads, so you people know. Listen to NOFX, Lagwagon, and Zebrahead if you want to see punk leads.

If you want to change settings for leads, use an EQ pedal. Experiment with one and see which settings give you the best lead tone. That is the best advice I can give you if you don't want to get a different amp or guitar.
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#7
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Punk =/= lead. Really The Clash are/were the only punk band with a two-guitar lineup. If you must though, buy a MIM telecaster. Their underrated guitars, and really they cut through as lead instruments in all genres IMO.

Don't listen to this guy. He is extremely dumb.
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Punk =/= lead. Really The Clash are/were the only punk band with a two-guitar lineup. If you must though, buy a MIM telecaster. Their underrated guitars, and really they cut through as lead instruments in all genres IMO.


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I've just never heard many punk bands with lead is all. Don't call me dumb for having an opinion that contrast. I do apologize for saying that though, it was somewhat daft.

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#10
get a Boss Metalzone or something of the sort. It doesn't mud up your tone, believe it or not.
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get a Boss Metalzone or something of the sort. It doesn't mud up your tone, believe it or not.

I heard they are actually good for punk. On Newgrounds there is this guy who uploads punk songs to the audio portal and uses a Metal Zone, and his tone is awesome.
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Yes as weird as it sounds the boss metal zone is awesome for punk, I used to use a Strat with a Duncan JB in the bridge with a Boss Metalzone, come to find out later this was Billie Joe Armstrongs early set up for the dookie album. Also El Heffe and Melvin from NOFX used this set up for a while and recorded with it on so long and thanks for all the shoes. The queers use a Metalzone as well. Also the Boss Blues driver with the gain cranked really fills out the tone and gives you plenty of drive!
#14
Wow, well I might have to test a Metal Zone out one of these days, though it seems I'm already swimming in drive pedals.

The suggestions about Fenders though did cause me to remember that I am using a set of Duncan humbuckers. So naturally I'm going to have trouble doing hi-gain without a lot of rough sparkle and breakup I guess.
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#15
Maaaan, too many people are ignorant about punk just because it's more simple...on paper.

For a good lead punk tone, try using the bridge pickup, full tone, high mids and treble with a knocked back bass, a moderate amount of gain and some aggressive pick technique. Let me know how that works out for you and we can go from there.
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May I know what's TLDR?
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May I know what's TLDR?

too long; didn't read. he added that little tl;dr bit at the end for people who were too lazy to read the whole post.
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Yes as weird as it sounds the boss metal zone is awesome for punk, I used to use a Strat with a Duncan JB in the bridge with a Boss Metalzone, come to find out later this was Billie Joe Armstrongs early set up for the dookie album. Also El Heffe and Melvin from NOFX used this set up for a while and recorded with it on so long and thanks for all the shoes. The queers use a Metalzone as well. Also the Boss Blues driver with the gain cranked really fills out the tone and gives you plenty of drive!

Damn, I have to try one of those out after I get my new amp.
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I've just never heard many punk bands with lead is all. Don't call me dumb for having an opinion that contrast. I do apologize for saying that though, it was somewhat daft.


Looking at my musical taste, that's actually quite possible.


That wasn't an opinion, it was ignorance.
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#21
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Punk =/= lead. Really The Clash are/were the only punk band with a two-guitar lineup. If you must though, buy a MIM telecaster. Their underrated guitars, and really they cut through as lead instruments in all genres IMO.




Telecasters are good for punk though, probably the only thing he said that wasn't full of fail.

IMO the clash sounded like a bunch of barking seals, I never saw what was so great about them.
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Telecasters are good for punk though, probably the only thing he said that wasn't full of fail.

IMO the clash sounded like a bunch of barking seals, I never saw what was so great about them.


I never liked the Clash, but they did THEIR thing and they did it well. Gotta respect that.

And I mean, come on, they were better than Beat Happening (which I still don't get AT ALL!).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oljL1zbGkTY

I mean seriously, read the reviews, people love them! *shrugs*
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    I never liked the Clash, but they did THEIR thing and they did it well. Gotta respect that.

    And I mean, come on, they were better than Beat Happening (which I still don't get AT ALL!).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oljL1zbGkTY

    I mean seriously, read the reviews, people love them! *shrugs*


    I do respect whatever it is they did for music. When it comes to early punk ive always just preferred the ramones and the stooges
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