#1
What's up guys, looking to build a fuzz pedal (never built a pedal before) and was wondering if anyone can recommend one that they've built and has a good tone. Planning to play some zeppelin, bonamassa, zz top classic rock style-stuff, maybe kyuss

Needs to come with the pre-drilled enclosure, I don't have the tools at school or home to drill it myself.

Looking to keep it under 100 USD


So far, I've seen

http://www.buildyourownclone.com/octavefuzz.html
http://www.buildyourownclone.com/leeds.html
http://www.buildyourownclone.com/beaver.html
http://www.buildyourownclone.com/fuzz.html <----


http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=20&category_id=7&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=45
http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=23&category_id=7&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=45


Anyone know of any others? I'm leaning towards a byoc because they throw in some stuff for first time buyers, like little practice things to build. I'm thinking the e.s.v. fuzz, but again, throw out some more options, or if you have experience with any, how do they sound?
Last edited by pak1351 at Feb 14, 2009,
#4
I'd go for the esv tonebender, i have one and and it's amazing.
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#6
I'm thinking you should build either a Tonebender, Germanium Fuzz Face or a Silicon one.

I play Kyuss stuff with my Roger Mayer Axis Fuzz (Hendrix's silicon Fuzz Face), and it does it pretty well. Think One Inch Man, Hurricane and Supa Scoopa and Mighty Scoop. It's also good for Zeppelin, but Jimmy Page used a Tonebender.
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#7
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Can someone explain the tonal differences between the tonebender (http://www.buildyourownclone.com/tonebender.html) and the fuzz(http://www.buildyourownclone.com/fuzz.html)?


A MKII Tonebender is much more fuzzier, after all it's basically a boosted fuzz face. The midrange is a little more accentuated as well. If you want to hear a MKII Tonebender in action listen to the "Little Games" Yardbirds album. First Zeppelin album has a Tonebender as well (You Shook Me, How Many More Times and Dazed and Confused).
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Can someone explain the tonal differences between the tonebender (http://www.buildyourownclone.com/tonebender.html) and the fuzz(http://www.buildyourownclone.com/fuzz.html)?

The "fuzz" looks like a 2 transistor fuzz face clone. I'm not really much of a fuzz connoisseur so there are people who know better than me about the subject, but the TB is a 3 transistor unit, they sound quite different.
#9
Alright, it's looking like the tonebender then. The only issue I see is the fact that it's a positive ground so I'll have to get it a dedicated adapter and can't daisy-chain it.

In case you haven't noticed, i don't know too much about fuzzes.

So the fuzz would be more of a hendrix fuzz, and the bender more of a Cream and early zep fuzz?
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#10
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So the fuzz would be more of a hendrix fuzz, and the bender more of a Cream and early zep fuzz?

I believe Clapton used a Fuzz Face during Cream, but he probably had a Tonebender too. I'd say you could get Kyuss out of either of them. I'm doing Cream, Zeppelin, Hendrix and Kyuss stuff using my silicon fuzz face.
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#11
The current draw in a Tonebender is very low so the battery lasts quite a while, don't see the need for the adapter personally. The Tonebender really won't do Cream in my opinion, a Fuzz Face might, I'm not convinced Clapton ever used a fuzz during Cream though despite what many people say. The Tonebender will do early Page/Zeppelin though (Yardbirds, LZI and live stuff until mid '69).
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#12
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I'm not convinced Clapton ever used a fuzz during Cream though despite what many people say.

Yeah, I've always believed that he just used the overdrive from his Marshall for his Woman tone. Not quite sure why he'd need a fuzz for that, but it is obtainable with a fuzz.
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#13
^^^also, an overdriven tube amp + a small fuzz boost = eargasm.


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The "fuzz" looks like a 2 transistor fuzz face clone. I'm not really much of a fuzz connoisseur so there are people who know better than me about the subject, but the TB is a 3 transistor unit, they sound quite different.


pretty much. since the fuzzes in question are germanium transistors, they both have that classic, harsh (bite) fuzz sound. so cream-zep-hendrix will be covered. the 2-tranny is a much "darker" sounding fuzz in my opinion, whereas the 3 is a more treble-oriented fuzz, and not as muffled.

both are very different from a silicon transistor fuzz, which has a smoother, modern sound.
#14
Thanks guys, I don't know if clapton used a fuzz in cream, but I think you could get close to that tone using a fuzz, that's what I meant by that statement.

I think I'm going with the tb, worst case scenario is I have to buy both, and that's not much of a punishment. Just hoping I can build it without too many issues
#15
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^^^also, an overdriven tube amp + a small fuzz boost = eargasm.


pretty much. since the fuzzes in question are germanium transistors, they both have that classic, harsh (bite) fuzz sound. so cream-zep-hendrix will be covered. the 2-tranny is a much "darker" sounding fuzz in my opinion, whereas the 3 is a more treble-oriented fuzz, and not as muffled.

both are very different from a silicon transistor fuzz, which has a smoother, modern sound.

You are describing silicon not germanium. Ge transistors are soft and creamy not harsh at all.

Cream and Hendrix stuff will definitely be covered if using Ge transistors.
#16
^^ i've always felt germanium to have more bite than silicon. huh, weird.

hey patrick......actually, once you build one, do you mind if i try it? i've been wanting to get my hands on a BYOC fuzz, but i really dont have much of a budget to buy any more equipment at the moment
#17
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^^^also, an overdriven tube amp + a small fuzz boost = eargasm.
pretty much. since the fuzzes in question are germanium transistors, they both have that classic, harsh (bite) fuzz sound. so cream-zep-hendrix will be covered. the 2-tranny is a much "darker" sounding fuzz in my opinion, whereas the 3 is a more treble-oriented fuzz, and not as muffled.

both are very different from a silicon transistor fuzz, which has a smoother, modern sound.


Neither of the fuzzes being discussed are harsh, both can actually lack bite. Silicon tends to be harsher as well, perfectly example is the Fuzz Face. Compare a germanium and silicon fuzz face. Completely depends on the circuit design though, can't stress that enough.
#19
dang, looks like i need to re-listen to some fuzzes. last time i was at mah shop of choice, i played a germanium (although not a clone of anything, it was a handbuilt circuit from their pedal tech) it had quite the snarl.

basically, time to A/B everything and take careful notes.
#20
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hey patrick......actually, once you build one, do you mind if i try it? i've been wanting to get my hands on a BYOC fuzz, but i really dont have much of a budget to buy any more equipment at the moment



Sure thing, I'm ordering it in a week or so, we'll see how long it takes to actually build it.
I've been jonesing for a fuzz ever since I decided to learn guitar, and I figured, why the hell not? Getting a 500 dollar tax refund, so I'll pre-spend a little.

thanks for the info kurtlives, that's actually pretty cool
#21
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Sure thing, I'm ordering it in a week or so, we'll see how long it takes to actually build it.
I've been jonesing for a fuzz ever since I decided to learn guitar, and I figured, why the hell not? Getting a 500 dollar tax refund, so I'll pre-spend a little.