#1
Alright so yesterday i sold off my DSL100 head and today i went and picked up a Bugera 333xl 212 combo. This amp is so versatile and worth every penny.

I took the precautions and tightened everything and made sure all the clips were secure. The only problem i have now is biasing this thing. It was so easy to bias my DSL head but this thing isn't giving me steady numbers using the test point.

I heard there was another way to do this and i saw the video of the guy biasing a jcm800 but it was way too zoomed out for me to see exactly what he did. Can anybody help me out with this matter?

EDIT: For pics.



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#2
Sweet.
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I can't help with the biasing though..sorry.
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#3
Why...why...why would you sell a perfectly good DSL100 to buy an amp that has a very good chance of breaking on you within a few weeks?
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#4
pics please
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Why...why...why would you sell a perfectly good DSL100 to buy an amp that has a very good chance of breaking on you within a few weeks?


Perhaps because the tone is better and he fixed it up?
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Why...why...why would you sell a perfectly good DSL100 to buy an amp that has a very good chance of breaking on you within a few weeks?


Honestly i've heard more stories of the amp not breaking than stories of it crapping out. It's always the people that use it for gigging and actual band situations were it doesn't break down, and the people using it as a practice amp is where it does breaks down. Coincidence? I think not.

And usually when it does that, it's because of a tube or transformer that needs to be replaced. And IMO this amp covers all of DSL's tone with ease and more. Also i needed a combo. I'll have pics up in a sec.
#7
i also am confused to as why you would essentially trade marshall awesomeness for bugera-ness, but that is your call not mine! So therefore, grats on your new amp! i hope that it turns out to be everything that your wanting!

EDIT: ah, oky doky. i see your point.
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Perhaps because the tone is better and he fixed it up?

I had the same thoughts after I thought "Now why'd he do that?".
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#11
i can sort of understand the trade. i wouldnt really consider it an upgrade, but more just a change. like switching types of picks, your not necessarily getting higher quality ones most of the time, just different ones that feel different, and many times you switch back. so i hope TS enjoys the change, lets pray there aren't gonna be any horror stories. im considering a 333 for when i move onto actual amps.
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#12
why did you trade your penis enlargement !?!?!?!? (stack)


The Cab is still there, no way in hell am i trading that. It has such good Celestian speakers, think they are for keyboard amps but they sound so nice for guitar, especially metal.

I only sold the head, i got $700 for it. It was a nice amp, did a lot for me and sounded nice. It was lacking the versatility i needed though.
#13
i can sort of understand the trade. i wouldnt really consider it an upgrade, but more just a change. like switching types of picks, your not necessarily getting higher quality ones most of the time, just different ones that feel different, and many times you switch back. so i hope TS enjoys the change, lets pray there aren't gonna be any horror stories. im considering a 333 for when i move onto actual amps.


That's exactly how i would explain it. Not really an upgrade as i had no money to begin with. I sold the head and with that money i bought a combo that suites my needs much more. I really think that Bugeras are well worth the money (if not more) as long as you take the necessary precautions. It's not the amps that are crap, it's that crap Quality Control.
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The Cab is still there, no way in hell am i trading that. It has such good Celestian speakers, think they are for keyboard amps but they sound so nice for guitar, especially metal.

I only sold the head, i got $700 for it. It was a nice amp, did a lot for me and sounded nice. It was lacking the versatility i needed though.


is it just me, or is your setup too metal for someone looking for pink floyd sounds? active EMG's, high gain amp, now this
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is it just me, or is your setup too metal for someone looking for pink floyd sounds? active EMG's, high gain amp, now this

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I'm in to progressive style, progressive metal or rock. I like the spirituality of Pink Floyd with the guitar chops of Buckethead and Paul Gilbert. Anyway EMG's are 18v moded (sounds pretty different from that metal tone you expect out of emgs), and I plug into low gain input of the 333xl using the crunch channel most of the time.

When feel like playing some high gain American voiced shred, then i use the Lead channel. And the clean channel is so much cleaner than my DSL ever was.
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#17
how much did you pay for you Bugera
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Honestly i've heard more stories of the amp not breaking than stories of it crapping out. It's always the people that use it for gigging and actual band situations were it doesn't break down, and the people using it as a practice amp is where it does breaks down. Coincidence? I think not.

And usually when it does that, it's because of a tube or transformer that needs to be replaced. And IMO this amp covers all of DSL's tone with ease and more. Also i needed a combo. I'll have pics up in a sec.

You say that like it's a small fix. The transformers are the most expensive components of the amplifier. If there is one thing that you don't want to replace, it's the transformers.
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I'm in to progressive style, progressive metal or rock. I like the spirituality of Pink Floyd with the guitar chops of Buckethead and Paul Gilbert. Anyway EMG's are 18v moded (sounds pretty different from that metal tone you expect out of emgs), and I plug into low gain input of the 333xl using the crunch channel most of the time.

When feel like playing some high gain American voiced shred, then i use the Lead channel. And the clean channel is so much cleaner than my DSL ever was.


I really dig the low inputs on my 333XL as well. Most people don't realize you can get fantastic mid gain tones out of this thing.

My 333XL has replaced a JCM 900, a 5150 and a GK250ml for a live rig.

VERY versatile.
#21
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The Cab is still there, no way in hell am i trading that. It has such good Celestian speakers, think they are for keyboard amps but they sound so nice for guitar, especially metal.

i have the same cab. hey're not keyboard speakers, they're the matching cab for the vtm-series heads. i like my 1960a waaaayyyy more though. congrats, btw!
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#22
Congrats on the new amp! So many new amps these day - the world economy must be getting better. (at least I hope so).
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#23
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I really dig the low inputs on my 333XL as well. Most people don't realize you can get fantastic mid gain tones out of this thing.

My 333XL has replaced a JCM 900, a 5150 and a GK250ml for a live rig.

VERY versatile.


Yeah i've used it for about 7-10 hours now and i'm liking it more and more now that im used to how it dials in. Eh so beer church can you help me out with the problem though, i still haven't biased it.