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#1
im just curious as to what is out there. i can see there are plenty good metal combos out there but they are all american voiced. valveking, 6505 combo, b52 ect. are there any similar amps with a british flavour?
#2
Not sure if it'll be high gain enough for you, but give Orange a look, their gainstages can get pretty nasty cranked, in a good way.
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Not sure if it'll be high gain enough for you, but give Orange a look, their gainstages can get pretty nasty cranked, in a good way.

Orange amps are great, and I know this because my mate has one, but they don't really do distortion as such, it's more of an overdrive-type sound. That said, they do have a very wide gain range and can get some serious crunch going on, and there are metal bands that use them. If you crank them all the way up they do have enough gain for metal, but the fundamental voicing of the overdrive means it wont quite suit the genre as much as others.

There might be metal versions of Orange amps that you can get, but if not you could just try combining a normal one with a distortion pedal to get the metal sound, then crank the gain up to get great high-gain sounds.
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Laney GH-50/100 or Laney VH 100r are well known for their superb distortion and british voicing
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#5
What's "cheapish"?

As far as a high gain british sound, Splawn comes to mine, my buddy 311 has one (a quickrod) which I had the honor to play tonight and it's a simply amazing amp. The QR has plenty of gain, I believe the nitro's have more and are voiced for more modern stuff.

Mesa stiletto comes to mind, mesa's take on the jcm800. Hatebreeder has one, he got is after he sold a jcm800 he had, he said it's better in every way.

JCM900, supposed to be an 800 with more gain, never been able to play one.

JCM2000 DSL, lots of gain on tap, not really a fan of this amp personally, but what do I know? Certainly fits the bill of a high gain british amp.

Cornford makes some high gain amps, but they aren't what I'd call cheap. Actually none of the amps I listed are very cheap beside the two marshalls, even then the DSL is pretty expensive new.
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well, my peavey windsor is a "british voice", but im not sure what hi-gain metal is ... the head and cab was five hundred dollars together. everything with gain about 6 on most amps sounds metal to me XD
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well i have an ac15 that i am thinking of replacing since my music tastes have changed. it sounds far too loose and doesnt agree with overdrive pedals well.

the tone im aiming for is opeth's tone in watershed. i also would like to get some guthrie govan tones. (i know he uses cornfords which are expensive as hell)

probably 1500 aud max
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Laney AOR, if you can find one.

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well i have an ac15 that i am thinking of replacing since my music tastes have changed. it sounds far too loose and doesnt agree with overdrive pedals well.

the tone im aiming for is opeth's tone in watershed. i also would like to get some guthrie govan tones. (i know he uses cornfords which are expensive as hell)

probably 1500 aud max



For that price you could get a GH50L + 2x12 cab.


But I'd suggest just going to a few different stores and trying heaps of amps and see which one you like.
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I would highly look at the Mesa Stiletto Stage 2. Supposed to really sound great, looking for one myself.

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Obviously Marshall. But I'd avoid the JCM 800 and even 900 if you are playing metal.
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i saw a jcm900 going for 630 dollars at my store the other day. has enough gain for most metal, and a very thrashy british sound. to RJF, since when were splawns cheap(ish)?

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Laney GH-50/100 or Laney VH 100r are well known for their superb distortion and british voicing

my rhythm guitarist in my band has the gh-50, that **** is br00tal.
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Laney AOR can do metal if you throw an OD on it
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What's "cheapish"?
JCM900, supposed to be an 800 with more gain, never been able to play one.
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their more modern voiced, with more gain, and actually a lot more features (effects loop, reverb, clean channel instead of "normal" channel etc.)

had to do it man
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Laney AOR can do metal if you throw an OD on it

my other guitarist in my band doesnt even put a OD infront of his GH 50 and it does super br00talz and his gain is at like 6.
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you need the OD to tighten it up a bit not for more gain the thing has globs of gain but it's a bit vintage voiced think JCM800 on steroids
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Obviously Marshall. But I'd avoid the JCM 800 and even 900 if you are playing metal.



Despite Georgakis needing a chill pill, he's right

800 is the original thrash amp, and the 900 can pull off Metal pretty easily
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#23
My Traynor is pretty good at british voice distortion channel. It does pretty well that Marshall crunch thing. I've never played a JCM800 (which is the definition of a high gain british voiced amp), but my Traynor seems to do the the whole 80s hard rock thing very well.
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Despite Georgakis needing a chill pill, he's right

800 is the original thrash amp, and the 900 can pull off Metal pretty easily

correct me if im wrong, but im 90% sure the rhythm guitarist for the devil wears prada uses a JCM 900 and there pretty Br00tal. it just shows the tone they can get, which some may not agree but its still achieving that kind of distortion.
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correct me if im wrong, but im 90% sure the rhythm guitarist for the devil wears prada uses a JCM 900 and there pretty Br00tal. it just shows the tone they can get, which some may not agree but its still achieving that kind of distortion.


also i read that Andreas Kisser of Sepultura used one at some point, which even if he didn't use it prominently shows that it can pull off thrash things at least somewhat well
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#26
bahaha, just found this out, one of the 3 guitarists of whitechapel uses a JCM900 with a Maxon. lol, a JCM900 can now pull of deathcore..
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I would highly look at the Mesa Stiletto Stage 2. Supposed to really sound great, looking for one myself.

Orange

Splawn

Obviously Marshall. But I'd avoid the JCM 800 and even 900 if you are playing metal.


well you may wanna tell that to my Marshall JCM 900 and King and Hannemens JCM 800`s

i run my 900 with a BCR KKV with EMG`s and the PA2 booster with a MXR 108 10 band, and i have more gain on tap then ANYONE would EVER need, but yes the 900 does metal very easy
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bahaha, just found this out, one of the 3 guitarists of whitechapel uses a JCM900 with a Maxon. lol, a JCM900 can now pull of deathcore..


dam i'm excited, can't wait to get mine fixed and rip out some Cannibal Corpse


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well you may wanna tell that to my Marshall JCM 900 and King and Hannemens JCM 800`s

i run my 900 with a BCR KKV with EMG`s and the PA2 booster with a MXR 108 10 band, and i have more gain on tap then ANYONE would EVER need, but yes the 900 does metal very easy



yet more evidence lol
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dam i'm excited, can't wait to get mine fixed and rip out some Cannibal Corpse


yet more evidence lol


So you finally did get a 900? i know you`ve been asking about them for months.
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So you finally did get a 900? i know you`ve been asking about them for months.


i know man i've been dying to get one finally did

although the speaker was ripped and the tubes were basically blown

but hey man its worth it
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i know man i've been dying to get one finally did

although the speaker was ripped and the tubes were basically blown

but hey man its worth it


wicked man, i`m guessing it`s a combo. damn it, i can`t remember what kind of tubes i had put in mine, there higher gain sound awesome, wish i could remember to tell ya, but mine are EL 34`s i`m guessing yours is a 6L6.

i HIGHLY recommed a MXR 108 10 band EQ in the FX loop, best pedal EVER.
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I love the JCM900 tone, metal is easy on it.
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wicked man, i`m guessing it`s a combo. damn it, i can`t remember what kind of tubes i had put in mine, there higher gain sound awesome, wish i could remember to tell ya, but mine are EL 34`s i`m guessing yours is a 6L6.

i HIGHLY recommed a MXR 108 10 band EQ in the FX loop, best pedal EVER.



yeah its a 1x12, i'm probably going JJ to make it darker, because i've heard its bright will will help balance it out

i'm going 6L6 i think, just a better fit

and yeah man i have that pedal (got it for Christmas) and will try it in the loop, sounds like the secret to the King/Hanneman tone (along with EMG's and the booster you have as well)

when i get it up and running you'll have to give me some tips on nailing that tone, because i do want it
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New Bugera's are coming out, marshall clones.
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#36
900 series roolz....rips your face right off.


i have jj el34ls in miine landon...and jj ecc83s preamps tooborz.
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900 series roolz....rips your face right off.


i have jj el34ls in miine landon...and jj ecc83s preamps tooborz.



hey thanks man, i wish i could test out the amp with EL34's and see what i think, but alas the tubes are blown
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it sounds okay, but it has these problems:
-COMPLETELY overpriced, realistically you could cut the price in half and that should be the price, but because it says "Marshall" on the front its grossly expensive
-you pretty much have to get a speaker change to get anything really good
-there's way better stuff for that much
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it sounds okay, but it has these problems:
-COMPLETELY overpriced, realistically you could cut the price in half and that should be the price, but because it says "Marshall" on the front its grossly expensive
-you pretty much have to get a speaker change to get anything really good
-there's way better stuff for that much


well for what it is it fits the bill. what is similar that is out there. would a used jcm 800/900 combo sound better? what else does the same but is cheaper?

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