#1
Hi, here's the situation.

I can get a Blackstar HT 5 combo for 750 AU
OR
A Bugera 333XL combo for 850 AU.

The Blackstar is 5 watts, while the Bugera is 120 watts.
Here's my question, why is a 5 watt amp only 100 AU cheaper than a 120 watt?
Is the Bugera really bad, or is the blackstar really good?


Thanks in advance.
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#2
the Bugera sounds good but it has poor reliability.....
and what Genres do you play
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#3
The HT-5 is a really good amp, I'm getting the ht-5 mini stack for £390 when I get paid this month.
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#4
pretty sure the Blackstar is handmade too

more of a boutique brand

besides unless you're playing a stadium it's an unnecessary level of power from the Bugera
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#5
I play a bit of everything. The main reason I'm asking is because I want an amp that will last me a long time. I plan on either keeping my vypyr for practice and getting the bugera for future giging and such. Or selling my vypyr and buying the bugera and whatever those noise things are (forgot what there called) that give full tube sound at low volume.

Any opinions?
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#6
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pretty sure the Blackstar is handmade too

more of a boutique brand

besides unless you're playing a stadium it's an unnecessary level of power from the Bugera

the Blackstar is not a BOOTEEK amp.........
and the bugera is MUCH more versatile than the HT-5 (its based on the Peavey JSX, satriani's sig amp)
BUT the HT-5 will last you longer though..........
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the Blackstar is not a BOOTEEK amp.........


never said it was a boutique amp, just more of one than the Bugera
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#8
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never said it was a boutique amp, just more of one than the Bugera

you got a point there......
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#11
Blackstar is better quality and you will probably keep it longer...however, you will NOT be able to play very clean during practice. At 5 watts, the amp won't be loud enough to hear over the band if you are trying to play something nice and clean...it just doesn't have the headroom. If you mic everything when you play/practice/gig, then it will work just fine.
#12
I don't want to spend more than 900 AU.

1. About the blackstar being a practice amp, this is my main worry. If I buy the blackstar it won't be as loud as my vypyr, so there's a step backwards.

2. The problem would be solved if I keep my vypyr and buy the bugera... As I'd have a practice amp and an amp to gig with. Btw, what are those things that give full tube sound at low volumes called again?

3. If I sold the vypyr and bought the bugera and a tube sound thing. Would that work for bedroom playing?

Hope that makes sence, sorry about forgetting the name of that thing.

Obviously I need help, thanks to everyone so far.
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#13
The device you are thinking of is an attenuator(sp?).

THD make one called the hot plate which i am looking at purchasing in the near future
#15
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Hi, here's the situation.

I can get a Blackstar HT 5 combo for 750 AU
OR
A Bugera 333XL combo for 850 AU.

The Blackstar is 5 watts, while the Bugera is 120 watts.
Here's my question, why is a 5 watt amp only 100 AU cheaper than a 120 watt?
Is the Bugera really bad, or is the blackstar really good?


Thanks in advance.


Because watts doesn't determine if an amp is good.
#16
Quote by DiizZ
1. About the blackstar being a practice amp, this is my main worry. If I buy the blackstar it won't be as loud as my vypyr, so there's a step backwards.

Bullshit. The HT-5 is a tube amp, so it'll be just as loud if not louder, depending on the power of your Peavey. You can always mic it up and put it through a PA for larger gigs, so don't worry about wattage.

2. The problem would be solved if I keep my vypyr and buy the bugera... As I'd have a practice amp and an amp to gig with. Btw, what are those things that give full tube sound at low volumes called again?
Attenuators.

3. If I sold the vypyr and bought the bugera and a tube sound thing. Would that work for bedroom playing?
Yes

The Bugera has a substantial amount more gain than the Blackstar; what will you be playing on it?
#17
I play allot of different styles, extremely varied. Mostly i would play rock/light metal. Im leaning towards the Bugera. Luckily, i have a store near me that has them in, so ill head over there to see how it is.

I dont think ill have a chance to try and blackstar, so far i havent found any stores that stock them near me. Are there any places that stock them in Melbourne? prefferably in the city or around their.

Thanks for all the replies, any more suggestions/comments would be greatly appreciated.
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#18
It's kinda hard to compare the 2 really, they're kinda different beasts really.

It's like trying to compare Sports Bikes and Sports Cars, they both do a similar job but in a different way.
#19
I'd say try and keep your hands on that vypyr and get the bugera if you can
I've had my bugera for a couple of months now and can say it's pretty damn sturdy
But it's louder than shxt, so you might wanna keep a hold of a practice amp