#1
Hey,can someone help me out here?

Can you suggest some Scales/Modes that are good for writing doomy riffs like early Black Sabbath stuff?

Cheers!!
#2
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let each note ring out a bit, you will scare the **** out of everyone with that. From sabbaths first album, first track, I think it's known as the devils interval. Move it around, and it can sound quite cool.
Last edited by cuscus97 at Feb 15, 2009,
#3
iommi kept things quite simple
alot of the doomyness came from his tunings
u can also make use of the tritone as shown above it has a flattened third was banned in medieval churches for its satanic qualitys
iommi liked using that
he used alot of power chords nothing to difficult
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Last edited by steve! at Feb 15, 2009,
#4
Quote by steve!
iommi kept things quite simple
alot of the doomyness came from his tunings
u can also make use of the tritone as shown above it has a flattened third was banned in medieval churches for its satanic qualitys
iommi liked using that
It's the flattened fifth, not the third.

Anyway, most of Iommi's stuff comes from the blues...both the riffs and the solos.

So yeah, blues scale. Also, I've seen interviews where Iommi explains how he uses vibrato with power chords in order to thicken up the sound.
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#5
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It's the flattened fifth, not the third.

Anyway, most of Iommi's stuff comes from the blues...both the riffs and the solos.

So yeah, blues scale. Also, I've seen interviews where Iommi explains how he uses vibrato with power chords in order to thicken up the sound.


sorry haha dunno why i said that
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#6
Yeah, the tri-tone (flatted 5th) as stated above is ideal for doomy riffs. Try not to make it too obvious, but put emphasis on it and you'll be worshipping satan in no time!

Blues scales and pentatonics are Iommi's common scales as far as soloing goes... I believe.
#7
If you really want to get doomy, try this as an exercise

For writing a riff within a scale:
Start by identifying all the notes in your blues scale on a given root
Think of these as your primary tones
Now add in the notes in your harmonic minor scale
These can be your secondary tones
Plus all of the notes that connect them
Imagine those as tertiary tones

So all 12 notes are fair game at any given time, but with a sort of heirarchy where you'll use those blue notes most, but anything else can be added in for effect.

THIS IS NOT THEORY!
It's an exercise in expanding your horizons and a way to see all the notes on the fretboard as potential choices. Its actually based on a jazz improv exercise I heard a while back. Try it and see what you think.
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#8
He used alot of pentatonics...

The doomy sound comes from the slow tempos and downtuned guitar btw, just playing notes that he played won't get the sound you want.