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I'm trying to find a right setup for myself. I'm getting a vader cab VC412BK, and I'm currently looking for a good head to go along with it. I play melodic death metal/hardcore, and I'm trying to find a good sound. So far I found,

-Krank Krankenstein
-Peavey 6505+
-Randall V2

Any suggestions? or comments about the three listed? Thanks.
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#2
First off, good cab choice with the Vader, excellent quality.

Personally I would go with the 6505+, but my opinion is pretty biased considering I've never played the Krank and I just do not enjoy the Randall V2.

You should look at Engl's, more specifically the Fireball and Powerball, really tight amps, more gain then you will ever need.
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#3
BUDGET please??
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#4
no budget.
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#5
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BUDGET please??


...Here comes Mesa F-Series, Mesa DC-Series, and Peavey XXX....

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#6
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...Here comes Mesa F-Series, Mesa DC-Series, and Peavey XXX....

Love you WTF.

not this time....he has no budget
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TIME FOAR TEH BIG LIST OF THE BR00TALzzz

GET A/AN:
ENGL Special Edition
ENGL Invader
ENGL PowerBall
ENGL Fire Ball
ENGL Savage
Peters Gryphon
Peters Chimera
Bogner XTC/Ecstacy
Bogner Uberschall
Mesa/Boogie Mark IV
Mesa/Boogie Mark V (when it comes out )
Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier Roadster
Mesa/Boogie Triple Rectifier
Mesa/Boogie F-50
Mesa/Boogie DC3
Splawn Nitro
Splawn Quickrod (EVH tone)
Cornford MK50h
Cornford Hellcat
Fuchs Viper
Hughes & Kettner TriAmp MK II
Rivera KnuckleHead Tre
Rivera KR-7
Rivera KR-100
Framus Cobra
Framus Dragon
Carvin V3
Carvin Legacy
Carvin Legacy II
Diezel VH4
Diezel Herbert
Diezel Einstein
Diezel VH4s
Soldano SLO
Soldano Avenger
Marshall JCM 900
Marshall JCM 800KK
Marshall JVM
Peavey 6505+/5150II
Peavey XXX
Peavey 3120
Peavey JSX
VHT Pitbull
VHT Deliverance
VHT Sig X
VHT Ultra Lead
VHT
Krank Krankenstine
Krank Revolution +
EVH 5150 III
Orange RockerVerb 50
Orange ThunderVerb
Mako Dorado
Mako MAK 2
Mako Custom Hundred
+some more i cant remember......
and put them on a cab with Celestion V30's
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not this time....he has no budget

TIME FOAR TEH BIG LIST OF THE BR00TALzzz

GET A/AN:
ENGL Special Edition
ENGL Invader
ENGL PowerBall
ENGL Fire Ball
ENGL Savage
Peters Gryphon
Peters Chimera
Bogner XTC/Ecstacy
Bogner Uberschall
Mesa/Boogie Mark IV
Mesa/Boogie Mark V (when it comes out )
Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier Roadster
Mesa/Boogie Triple Rectifier
Mesa/Boogie F-50
Mesa/Boogie DC3
Splawn Nitro
Splawn Quickrod (EVH tone)
Cornford MK50h
Cornford Hellcat
Fuchs Viper
Hughes & Kettner TriAmp MK II
Rivera KnuckleHead Tre
Rivera KR-7
Rivera KR-100
Framus Cobra
Framus Dragon
Carvin V3
Carvin Legacy
Carvin Legacy II
Diezel VH4
Diezel Herbert
Diezel Einstein
Soldano SLO
Soldano Avenger
Marshall JCM 900
Marshall JCM 800KK
Peavey 6505+
Peavey XXX
Peavey 3120
Peavey JSX
VHT Pitbull
VHT Deliverance
VHT Sig X
Krank Krankenstine
Krank Revolution +
EVH 5150 III

+some more i cant remember......
and put them on a cab with Celestion V30's


HAHAHA, I LOVE THAT LIST.

You better save that. TS, still waiting for a budget.
#8
Zomg, teh br00t4lz ftw. Hmm, I'm tryin' to keep it under 2k. If any of those are over, and all of those will gief a sound that reminds meh of death.
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If some emo in a moshpit hit me i swear i would break him.

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or if you had a cell phone that was a Razr, you should give it to him
#9
Quote by WTF!!is a TAB
not this time....he has no budget

TIME FOAR TEH BIG LIST OF THE BR00TALzzz

GET A/AN:
*Huge ass list of amps*

+some more i cant remember......
and put them on a cab with Celestion V30's



Buy them all and put them on a cab with Celestion V30's.
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#11
dude i played a krankenstein a few days ago... it was utter sh*t. it sounded like ass was an amp. i really like xxx, i run mine though a vader, and it sounds like a beast
also, try and get a framus or a mesa mark series if you have that much money
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#12
^well KranK is mostly love/hate......... and TS i still have to add some more amps on the list but i still cant think of them(10 more amps i think).........
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Yeah I hear good and bad about Krank a lot. If it narrows it down, **** like ( www.myspace.com/atrestmusic , www.myspace.com/floatfacedown , www.myspace.com/fitforanautopsy ).

it is really bad. im serious. most people who love krankenstein are 14 and own a spider 3
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#15
Holy, you got like a video, or an mp3 of what your gear sounds like? Cause' I'm leaning towards the Peavey XXX and ENGL.
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If some emo in a moshpit hit me i swear i would break him.

Quote by greasysnowball
or if you had a cell phone that was a Razr, you should give it to him
#16
Quote by mikeEVH
Holy, you got like a video, or an mp3 of what your gear sounds like? Cause' I'm leaning towards the Peavey XXX and ENGL.


you completely ignored teh list uf teh br00talzz.............. but the Peavey XXX (usual WTF!!is a TAB suggestion) is a versatile amp.........
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#17
nah, I looked at teh list. It was uber big. So you don't suggest the triple x or you do? And if you didn't take a look at the examples yet, do ya mind checkin' em' out? Cause' thats the sound im trying to work my way too.
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If some emo in a moshpit hit me i swear i would break him.

Quote by greasysnowball
or if you had a cell phone that was a Razr, you should give it to him
#18
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not this time....he has no budget

TIME FOAR TEH BIG LIST OF THE BR00TALzzz

GET A/AN:
ENGL Special Edition
ENGL Invader
ENGL PowerBall
ENGL Fire Ball
ENGL Savage
Peters Gryphon <-- That one.
Peters Chimera
Bogner XTC/Ecstacy
Bogner Uberschall
Mesa/Boogie Mark IV
Mesa/Boogie Mark V (when it comes out )
Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier Roadster
Mesa/Boogie Triple Rectifier
Mesa/Boogie F-50
Mesa/Boogie DC3
Splawn Nitro
Splawn Quickrod (EVH tone)
Cornford MK50h
Cornford Hellcat
Fuchs Viper
Hughes & Kettner TriAmp MK II
Rivera KnuckleHead Tre
Rivera KR-7
Rivera KR-100
Framus Cobra
Framus Dragon
Carvin V3
Carvin Legacy
Carvin Legacy II
Diezel VH4
Diezel Herbert
Diezel Einstein
Soldano SLO
Soldano Avenger
Marshall JCM 900
Marshall JCM 800KK
Peavey 6505+
Peavey XXX
Peavey 3120
Peavey JSX
VHT Pitbull
VHT Deliverance
VHT Sig X
Krank Krankenstine
Krank Revolution +
EVH 5150 III

+some more i cant remember......
and put them on a cab with Celestion V30's

#19
Quote by mikeEVH
nah, I looked at teh list. It was uber big. So you don't suggest the triple x or you do? And if you didn't take a look at the examples yet, do ya mind checkin' em' out? Cause' thats the sound im trying to work my way too.

i really suggest the XXX
its in WTF!!is a TAB's "List of teh Usuals" (list of my most recommended amps)
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#20
i actually listened to those bands lol, and i would say you can definitely get the xxx to sound like that, just take some time tweaking the tone. and i will tell you that having a 412 does sound way better. F*ck all that combo BS. The sound is different
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#21
Alright, I'm gonna see if I can find the XXX in a Guitar Center, or somewhere. Thanks alot fellas' ;D Btw, check out ma band. www.myspace.com/crushedbeneathnj And WTF, I might just save that list. xD
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If some emo in a moshpit hit me i swear i would break him.

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or if you had a cell phone that was a Razr, you should give it to him
#22
Oh, and what do you guys think about Boss GT-10 and Rocktron Prophesy 2?
I'm thinking about one of em'.
Quote by GrEgUms1991
If some emo in a moshpit hit me i swear i would break him.

Quote by greasysnowball
or if you had a cell phone that was a Razr, you should give it to him
#23
^its against the rules to promote your band here...........
but you're OK..........

i already saved WTF!!is a TAB's List OF Teh Br00talzz

and you want a MultiFX pedal??
its better if you buy single ones....... multiFX has a lot of features that you don't need.......
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#24
Alright, thanks again dude.
Quote by GrEgUms1991
If some emo in a moshpit hit me i swear i would break him.

Quote by greasysnowball
or if you had a cell phone that was a Razr, you should give it to him
#25
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it is really bad. im serious. most people who love krankenstein are 14 and own a spider 3

lol, no need to insult Krank owners because you don't like the amps. My Stein could sound mean as hell dialed in correctly. Despite it's simple EQ, it's not really plug and play. The sweep control is the most powerful control on the EQ. Where that's set in relation to the TMB can be the difference between br00talz, and flaming pile of turd.
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lol, no need to insult Krank owners because you don't like the amps. My Stein could sound mean as hell dialed in correctly. Despite it's simple EQ, it's not really plug and play. The sweep control is the most powerful control on the EQ. Where that's set in relation to the TMB can be the difference between br00talz, and flaming pile of turd.


Yeah, thats why when I go to check out some amps, I make sure that I don't just plug in, I spend at least 15-20 mins to try and find a good sound. But it's also a pain cause' I can barely ever get past 1 on the volume knob in a store. -_-
Quote by GrEgUms1991
If some emo in a moshpit hit me i swear i would break him.

Quote by greasysnowball
or if you had a cell phone that was a Razr, you should give it to him
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Quote by mikeEVH
Yeah, thats why when I go to check out some amps, I make sure that I don't just plug in, I spend at least 15-20 mins to try and find a good sound. But it's also a pain cause' I can barely ever get past 1 on the volume knob in a store. -_-

me and my other guitarist tested this amp extensively against a jsx, a xxx, a 6505+, a jcm 800, a vht pitbull, and a b52. it got blown away by all of these amps.
and it costs more than all of them (except the pitbull)
this = sh*t imo
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#28
If you have no budget, as you say, why would you go for a peavey XXX? makes no sense.

A lot better options out there with mesa, engl, H&K, and soldano.

check them out.\


ex. ENGL powerball, fireball
soldano avenger
mesa mark iv, dual or trip recto

I dno..so many ****ing options with "no budget" lol.

I think you may have said under 2000 at a later point, but still 2k for a head leaves you a pretty wide range. Going with an XXX with a 2k budget is absurd.
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#30
i would have to disagree with mesa (except the mark series)
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Mesa Boogie Mark III blue dot Coliseum

Mesa Traditional 4x12 v30's x EVM 12l's


THE SEVEN STRING LEGION
#31
The thing is i'm trying to get something cheap and really good.
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If some emo in a moshpit hit me i swear i would break him.

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or if you had a cell phone that was a Razr, you should give it to him
#32
But i'm also looking for quality, cause' im saving up for a head so i'm not trying to spend a fortune, but i'm still looking for something good that will last me a LONG time.
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If some emo in a moshpit hit me i swear i would break him.

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or if you had a cell phone that was a Razr, you should give it to him
#33
then peavey seems to be the answer

i always rec the xxx
Ibanez XPT707 Xiphos
Schecter C-7 Loomis FR

Mesa Boogie Mark III blue dot Coliseum

Mesa Traditional 4x12 v30's x EVM 12l's


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#34
Quote by mikeEVH
But i'm also looking for quality, cause' im saving up for a head so i'm not trying to spend a fortune, but i'm still looking for something good that will last me a LONG time.

the XXX lasted my uncle 5 years............
if you bought the XXX/JSX then you made a good business decision
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#35
you could probably get an Uberschall used for under 2K
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#36
Quote by nvranka
If you have no budget, as you say, why would you go for a peavey XXX? makes no sense.
Going with an XXX with a 2k budget is absurd.

This.
#37
Get a Framus Cobra or an Engl.. Don't go with peavey
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#38
so wait.... ts is confusing me. what type of budget?????????????
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Mesa Boogie Mark III blue dot Coliseum

Mesa Traditional 4x12 v30's x EVM 12l's


THE SEVEN STRING LEGION
#39
Tryin' to keep it under 2k.
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If some emo in a moshpit hit me i swear i would break him.

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or if you had a cell phone that was a Razr, you should give it to him
#40
^2K for both HEAD and CAB ????
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