#1
Hello all,

i have had my AC30 for about a year now. and i love that thing.
I am a pure tone guy, tend to just plug my guitar into my amp and let her rip. never thought about effects and still am not.

so sitting here at work, and as the mid day beige starts to cloud my head, i have started dreaming about my guitar again.

im just wondering what you AC30 lovers like to plug into your AC30s, effects or guitars...

and im also wondering exactly what the effects loop does? i mean ive seen the connections and things for this but never really bothered to look into and/or use it. untill now that im uber bored. so any advice?
Last edited by Vagabondie at Feb 17, 2009,
#2
The effects loop puts any effects you put through it between the preamp and the power amp. If you put effects in front of the amp, they come before the preamp. There are positives and negatives to both, somethings are better after the preamp , some things are better before. A lot of it is really personal choice.

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#4
In general, place time based effects (delay, chorus, flange, etc) in the effects loops so it comes post pre-amp gain. That's the general rule of thumb but you can find some great tone by diverging from that course. I'd definately recommend playing with it sometime. Effects don't make or break a player (at least they shouldn't), but they can inspire you and allow you to do some very new and creative things!
Last edited by The Naffin at Feb 17, 2009,
#5
I never use effects pedals with my AC30 except for a Boss GE-7 EQ pedal.

The cleans and overdrive the amp gives are what you buy the amp for. There is no need to alter that sound with pedals. The EQ pedal I use for two reasons:

1. the EQ knobs on the AC30 do not give enough control of the sound. I shape my sound to my liking with the EQ pedal.

2. I use the EQ pedal as a boost. This little trick I learned from these forums and WOW, what this does to an already overdiven VOX is really cool. Takes your distortion to a Marshall-like level.

By the way an EQ pedal does not go in the effects loop, especially if you use it as a boost. (The boost must hit the pre-amp tubes first. It juices them up and that creates the added overdrive.) Put the EQ pedal in between guitar and amp.

The guitars I use in the AC30:
- Rickenbacker 12 string
- Fender Strat
- Epiphone Casino
- Epiphone EJ-160E acoustic
Some sound better than others due to the finicky nature of guitar/amp combinations
Last edited by CasinoEpiphone at Feb 17, 2009,
#6
haha CE, im glad your arround, you replied to my post about overdrive on the AC30, also mentioning then about the GE-7. im def gonna get one, but i think i want the sniper mod too.
speaking of which, anyone know if you can get instructions for this on the net so i can just go buy the bits and do it myself? or do i have to wait for the kit anyways?
#7
actually, anybody got any prefrences between the GE-7, and the MXR 6 band? before mods... how about after mods?
i ask because i hear the GE-7 has some hiss or hum when you start boosting too much, but if you were to mod it with the sniper it dramaticly reduces this.
#8
My Boss pedal hisses (not a lot, I think I got a good one) when I crank up the treble sliders. But every piece of gear does that. Supposedly the mod will get rid of that hiss, but if you try out your pedals you'll see that the standard hiss from higher treble is nothing to get bothered over.

The only reason I bought the EQ pedal was because my Casino sounds like crap through the VOX. No idea why. Sounds wonderful in my Fender amp, garbage in the VOX. The EQ can punch in a tone I am happy with. I was pissed I had to buy it, but then when I found out about the boost the pedal can give, I was more than happy I have the pedal and I use it for more guitars than the Casino. I even use it as a pre-amp for my little TASCAM portastudio. You can find lots of uses for this pedal.
Last edited by CasinoEpiphone at Feb 17, 2009,
#9
yeah, also you say its on the higher trebles, which i tend not to reach into, so it sounds pretty good to me. i can always mod it after of course to. now i just have to play the waiting game untill i have one.
#10
I edited a little more to my post above about another use for the pedal. I found a used one in a store for forty bucks. Tried it out and bought it. I now use it for EQ, boost, home recording... I've only had the pedal a month and already I have found some great uses for it.
#11
the only thing i put in front of it is occasionally an od pedal and i just use it as a boost instead of od, there is nothing like the natural breakup of an ac30 lol, im so happy i bought it
#12
Quote by Vagabondie
actually, anybody got any prefrences between the GE-7, and the MXR 6 band? before mods... how about after mods?
i ask because i hear the GE-7 has some hiss or hum when you start boosting too much, but if you were to mod it with the sniper it dramaticly reduces this.

When I was looking a decent mid range EQ pedal I tired the MXR 6 band and GE7.

I liked how the GE7 has a level slider. This meant you could use the pedal as a boost. My issue was the pedal was noisy as all get out!

The MXR didn't have a level slider but it was quite. I do have a lot of boost pedals so I didn't worry about missing level slider. So anywyas I went with the MXR.
#13
kurtlives91, "... was noisy as all get out!" not sure what your trying to say here?
#14
Can't play an AC30 without a treble booster, seriously. Get one of the Fryer ones, they'll take you into that signing Brian May/Rory Gallagher overdrive sound.
#15
Rock Pig, thanks for the tip, but i dont know if those are right for me, as im not neccesarilly looking for "may" tone. seems everyone who is reviewing these pedals keeps saying things along the lines of "total may tone". and really, i want an all round type deal so i can forge my own tone. but then again, ive never even seen one of these pedals so i cant truly say its not gonna do what i want it to.
#16
Use a treble booster, May used one, Gallagher (sp?) used one, and most ac30 user's seem to.

Pete cornish makes a bitching one if you have an arm and a leg to spare.
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#17
cliff_em_all i think someone has said exactly that already. lol thanks anyway though
#18
Quote by Vagabondie
cliff_em_all i think someone has said exactly that already. lol thanks anyway though



Ahh diddn't see it, and for that radalt rock tone, go for a Pro co rat aswell. those are the only 2 i know that suits an ac30.
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#19
Quote by Vagabondie
kurtlives91, "... was noisy as all get out!" not sure what your trying to say here?

Fairly common expression I thought....

I am trying to say the unit is VERY noisy.
#20
Skilly1, the reverb on the amp is good enough, im mostly looking for a boost thats not gonna cut from my tone, and isnt really distortion. i just want to naturally overdrive my amp just a little bit more... CasinoEpiphone has mentioned the EQ pedals a couple times now and they seem like they might do the trick. i was looking at regular OD pedals and boosts but i def like the idea of having an EQ to boost and to shape tone.
#21
kurtlives91, ahh i see, i thought it would have been somewhere along those lines. and people do tend to say it can be noisy. other say its not all bad. and hey with a sniper mod it could add lots of potential
Last edited by Vagabondie at Feb 17, 2009,
#22
Ya sure it could. Sometimes I just like to buy a pedal for what it is, ya know. I try to buy the best there is so then I don't have to spend time and money later modifying it.
#23
yeah i know exactly what you mean, id rather not have to mod anything, id rather have a pedal that fits my exact needs, but alas, this can not be so. and since i dont have much time to go test stuff, i gotta ask the demographic what they like. and its helping by-the-way.
#24
Quote by Vagabondie
Rock Pig, thanks for the tip, but i dont know if those are right for me, as im not neccesarilly looking for "may" tone. seems everyone who is reviewing these pedals keeps saying things along the lines of "total may tone". and really, i want an all round type deal so i can forge my own tone. but then again, ive never even seen one of these pedals so i cant truly say its not gonna do what i want it to.

Much more than Brian May to be had, really. Rory Gallagher for a start. And of course, you can forge your own sound as well; an AC30 + treble booster is very responsive to the guitar being used, and it's worth noting that both notable users turned it up as high as they could before feedback occured, if I'm not mistaken; there are more settings than just that to be had.

The treble booster drives the tubes beautifully while applying its own tonal signature; the top end is always sweet, the distortion is fat and smooth, and it positively siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiings. Try one, I implore you; you might change your mind
#25
I just got done playing my AC30 with a Boss OS-2 overdrive/distortion pedal. I have to say I wasn't happy. I am not here to have people saying "Well, that pedal sucks," but I am here to say that the AC30 no longer is an AC30 when you stomp on a distortion pedal.

If you use OD/distortion pedals you are losing the reason you have the amp in the first place. There is a classic 60s rock low, rumbling, grumbling, bubbling growl that the AC30 can give you. Or you can turn up the treble, switch to your bridge pickup and get a very sharp bite. That's what the pushed AC30 does. You either like that or start spending hundreds and hundreds more on pedals in search of something you may never find.
#26
i have used an SD-1 with the AC30 and i didnt like it at all.
still thinking of going with the EQ pedal deal i guess. its simple, its got boost, and its one pedal.
id rather not even have one, but i guess you gotta sometimes.