#1
can someone explain the specs of this guitar to me? gibson does a ****ty job of it.

it says it "gives you an infinite number of tonal possibilities"

yet when i look at it, its just a p-90 and a humbucker. is this some kind of magic pair of pups thats solved every guitarists tone problems? to put it simply i just dont understand why they chose that combo. and whats a piezo pickup?

the way i see it, its a robot guitar with different pups and a sexy finish

whats so great about this guitar?
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#5
extremely clean sound, or extremely chunky/metal sound. it has a very wide range of tonal possiblities. i havent even looked into the guitar and i can grasp that from just what you guys have posted.
#6
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piezo is for acoustic sound


so playing it through the piezo more then the natural pickups will give it more of a natural acoustic sound?

now that i think about it, that does sound interesting playing it using half pickup half piezo. the sound would be.... different.
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#7
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extremely clean sound, or extremely chunky/metal sound. it has a very wide range of tonal possiblities. i havent even looked into the guitar and i can grasp that from just what you guys have posted.

i didnt know p-90s were good for metal
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#9
they could be, depending on where you placed them on the guitar, now that i think about it more
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#14
it has sound modulation installed on board
let me just grab guitarist (they ran a section on it this month)
"the default setting is a chameleion tone knows as classic gibson but the MCK (like master knob thing) cna call up seven other presets which use different coil combinations and eq variations"
hope that helps
#15
Jack of all trades?

P90's can be very nice for heavy sounds. Ask Mick Box of Uriah Heep.
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#16
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there not

*they're

And they're great solo neck pickups.
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Stupid name.
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#17
*reported*


wrong section :S ???

anyway they should make a normal les paul looks as sexy as the darkfire
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#18
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this is exactly what I don't get...

a Piezo is like a microphone/ Acoustic pickup

A piezo pickups works off string pressures rather than change in magnetic field like regular magnetic pickups.
Primarily used to give a full acoustic sound.
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#19
^What he said.

Fishman make replacement bridges in most styles under the name "Powerbridge" that does the same thing.
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#20
Any idea on the pricing of the Dark Fire?

If it's below $5000 except a massive gear sale by me.
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#22
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A piezo pickups works off string pressures rather than change in magnetic field like regular magnetic pickups.
Primarily used to give a full acoustic sound.


ok i think i understand what it does. ill wiki it later for more info on it

still confused on why they chose the set up of a p90 and a humbucker though.
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#23
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It has GuitarRig3 Software built in to the tone knob somehow.


explain further? what does the software do?
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#24
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It has GuitarRig3 Software built in to the tone knob somehow.



No, I think it comes with guitar rig mobile as far as I can see.
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#25
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ok i think i understand what it does. ill wiki it later for more info on it

still confused on why they chose the set up of a p90 and a humbucker though.

Probably because Gibson don't often use other single coils.
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#26
"Piezo Bridge Pickup.
The Dark Fire also features a revolutionary Gibson-designed piezo bridge pickup that actually consists of six individual piezo pickups — one for each saddle/string. These piezo pickups go through a studio-quality active amplifier that allows for a stronger and more natural acoustic guitar sound. Combined, the two classic electromagnetic pickups and the piezo bridge pickup are wired in such a way to allow each individual coil to be used in a switching matrix, giving you over 20 separate combinations of tone and an incredible array of tonal possibilities."

"Gibson’s New P-90H Pickup
The new P-90H black soapbar pickup is another example of Gibson's drive to stay one step ahead. This new pickup offers all of the soulful, classic tone of Gibson’s legendary P-90 singlecoil pickup, but with none of the 60-cycle hum that usually plagues traditional singlecoil pickups. Gibson’s pioneering engineers were then able to secure all of the P-90’s vintage sonic characteristics, and deliver the same high output and sweet treble response that still makes the P-90 one of the most desirable pickups in the world."

straight from the gibson website. id say that explains it pretty damn well.
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Dark-Fire/Features.aspx
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#27
Through my good friend FLCLcowdude's research and a bit of poking around myself I have found out a little bit more about the guitar...


There are 4000 Gibson Dark Fire's. Gibson is witholding the original 100 for a LE run, i dunno, I guess to make buyers more antsy, and more willing to buy a guitar with a kickass case and a case for the case. The guitars themselves are the same, except for a few digits knocked off of the SN.

The price will be about $3,500. The Dealers stock the guitar for $2,500, and some guys have been nabbing these for $3000 out the door.
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