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#1
ok, skate punk is the music of skateing punks. Evan though kating got it's roots from California (being from Sacremento myself ), im in favour for it. But, Hardcore punk is the grasp of most bands, and if it weren't for Hardcore punk, we wouldn't have Nirvana or any grunge music at all, so lets battle it out here.
#2
What's with all these terrible threads lately?
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#5
No vs. threads.

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#7
Skate punk is bad ass

Hardcore punk is badass

I listen to it all, who cares man, listen and enjoy
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#8
hardcore is better imo
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What's with all these terrible threads lately?


hey yo, you have a problem with my thread kid, you think of a better one Ass Hole
#13
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What's with all these terrible threads lately?


agreed

this is a vs thread too so its against the rules(even though i dont see whats wrong with some vs threads)

but to contribute before this gets closed, i prefer skate punk.

A lot of hardcore punk sounded the same, and while I listen to it, I only listen to a few bands that did it like Bad Brains, Black Flag, and Dead Kennedys.
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hey yo, you have a problem with my thread kid, you think of a better one Ass Hole


your calling him kid when your younger than him?

Im sure he could think of a better one though, even i could.
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hey yo, you have a problem with my thread kid, you think of a better one Ass Hole
Oh man, that made me laugh so hard. Well done, I couldn't have imitated a dumb cunt that well.
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your calling him kid when your younger than him?

Im sure he could think of a better one though, even i could.


ok, lets see him try
#18
The post above me sums up how I feel about the OP.
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#20
Everyone knows that THE BANANAS are the best band from Sacramento. If Northern California gives you a bias towards anything it should be to drinking a **** ton of blatz, being a vegan and listening to THE BANANAS all the time.
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What's with all these terrible threads lately?



I would also like to know this.
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#22
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What's with all these terrible threads lately?


I know the answer to that.

that off topic thread has made the regulars not post threads as much anymore.

so now we got all these d-bags starting them
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I know the answer to that.

that off topic thread has made the regulars not post threads as much anymore.

so now we got all these d-bags starting them
That makes a lot more sense than my theory. It involved a combination of The Illuminati, The Zog, and Ted, that guy who lives down the street from me and listens to metalcore.
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That makes a lot more sense than my theory. It involved a combination of The Illuminati, The Zog, and Ted, that guy who lives down the street from me and listens to metalcore.



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Rancid are the best punk band ever.

Tim Armstrong is a songwriting genius, is a complete fashion diva and has an incredible singing voice.

He doesn't sound like Opie from family guy at all.
#26
How could you guys not mention this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7EkuGCfkYI

Skate and Destroy is THE skate punk song.

Skate punk doesn't exactly describe the actual music, but more of it's background. It has to be punk and has to have fast drumming, but that doesn't really count.
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#27
I've always had strong feelings against skate, to be honest. It's all the same generic and passionless stuff and is too dometicated and accessible to be real punk in my opinion.

Hardcore, by contrast was much more "real" in a sense that it had no rules and spawned such groundbreaking bands as Black Flag.
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I've always had strong feelings against skate, to be honest. It's all the same generic and passionless stuff and is too dometicated and accessible to be real punk in my opinion.

Hardcore, by contrast was much more "real" in a sense that it had no rules and spawned such groundbreaking bands as Black Flag.
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I've always had strong feelings against skate, to be honest. It's all the same generic and passionless stuff and is too dometicated and accessible to be real punk in my opinion.

Hardcore, by contrast was much more "real" in a sense that it had no rules and spawned such groundbreaking bands as Black Flag.

I was under the impression that The Faction and JFA were "skate punk," and they basicly sound like hardcore to me based on the few songs I've heard from each.
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Traditionally, Skate Punk is the same thing as hardcore, just with lyrics about skating.

This thread sucks.
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violent and dick-ruled is too often mixed with real in my opinion

I singled out Black Flag because they were one of the more interesting and avant-garde bands to emerge from the hardcore scene. The same is true of Flipper, Husker Du, and early emo bands (Embrace, Rites of Spring). Hardcore led to all sorts of experimentation, influencing everyone from noise-rock acts like Sonic Youth, to grungers like Nirvana and Mudhoney, to second-wave emo groups like Fugazi, and to post-hardcore that ranged from generic (hot water music) to avant-garde (blood brothers, at the drive-in). In contrast, skate punk has remained virtually unchanged since its conception: boring, linear, structured, accessible. I couldn't distinguish between Millencollin, NOFX, early Offspring, etc... to save my life.
So by "real", I meant sincere and dedicated, as opposed to the lazy, half-assed efforts of several skate punk bands.
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I singled out Black Flag because they were one of the more interesting and avant-garde bands to emerge from the hardcore scene. The same is true of Flipper, Husker Du, and early emo bands (Embrace, Rites of Spring). Hardcore led to all sorts of experimentation, influencing everyone from noise-rock acts like Sonic Youth, to grungers like Nirvana and Mudhoney, to second-wave emo groups like Fugazi, and to post-hardcore that ranged from generic (hot water music) to avant-garde (blood brothers, at the drive-in). In contrast, skate punk has remained virtually unchanged since its conception: boring, linear, structured, accessible. I couldn't distinguish between Millencollin, NOFX, early Offspring, etc... to save my life.
So by "real", I meant sincere and dedicated, as opposed to the lazy, half-assed efforts of several skate punk bands.


I´m no Nofx fan, though I can see that they changed their musicial style. At the beginning they played something which sounded like californian hardcore and nowadays they show a certain ska influence.
A while ago we had a Skate Punk thread here, it ended up defining what skate punk is. Mav-16 for example said he listens to Black Flag and Circle Jerks (?) while skating, therefore they are skate punk.
Oh and di you ever listen to new hardcore? They sound all the same. I think lots of hardcore music is really good, like MDC or Reagan Youth, but I think these are bands which are different from the normal hardcore in attitudes.
Kira Roessler said that she asked herself why Black Flag wanted her, since they where really sexist at shows. That´s not real, that´s either a stupid sense of humour or it´s hypocrit, therefore the term "real" does not fit on hardcore in my opinion.
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skate punk is the music of skateing punks.

What?
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Kira Roessler said that she asked herself why Black Flag wanted her, since they where really sexist at shows. That´s not real, that´s either a stupid sense of humour or it´s hypocrit, therefore the term "real" does not fit on hardcore in my opinion.

Okay. When you say real, you mean cool-guy, hip hop "tha's fo' real, homie" ("real here being the opposite of "wack")
When I say real, I mean true as in true art as in expression as in more than just trying to get a single on the charts ("real" here being the opposite of "fake")

We all saw American Hardcore and witnessed Roessler's demonstration of her stunted mental development. "Slip it in" isn't anti-women, it's anti-women who allow themselves to be seen solely as sexual objects. Even the minimal number of words you can make out without looking up the lyrics can tell you that.
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#37
^I don´t have it in mind that good, but I bet Roessler knew waht she was saying, since she played in that band.........real as the opposite of fake.........uhm.........I think the whole hardcore scene was a kind of fashion, the first one did something, and others saw that it turns out to be good......that´s fashion.
I don´t have a problem with lots of hardcore, but I think there are many more honest subscenes of punk out there.
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^I don´t have it in mind that good, but I bet Roessler knew waht she was saying, since she played in that band.........real as the opposite of fake.........uhm.........I think the whole hardcore scene was a kind of fashion, the first one did something, and others saw that it turns out to be good......that´s fashion.
I don´t have a problem with lots of hardcore, but I think there are many more honest subscenes of punk out there.

lol I think you're misunderstanding me. Hardcore and Skate punk are both boring and unoriginal as a scene or as a style. The only praise I gave the genre is that it led to a lot of experimentation both within hardcore and out of it. There are only a handful of really great hardcore bands (of the original wave): Husker Du, Black Flag, Embrace, Flipper, Rites of Spring...
My problem is that Skate punk never led to anything even remotely interesting because, unlike hardcore, was generally just unmotivated (This is where the "real" argument comes in".
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That makes a lot more sense than my theory. It involved a combination of The Illuminati, The Zog, and Ted, that guy who lives down the street from me and listens to metalcore.

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Quote by toyboxmonster
I singled out Black Flag because they were one of the more interesting and avant-garde bands to emerge from the hardcore scene. The same is true of Flipper, Husker Du, and early emo bands (Embrace, Rites of Spring). Hardcore led to all sorts of experimentation, influencing everyone from noise-rock acts like Sonic Youth, to grungers like Nirvana and Mudhoney, to second-wave emo groups like Fugazi, and to post-hardcore that ranged from generic (hot water music) to avant-garde (blood brothers, at the drive-in). In contrast, skate punk has remained virtually unchanged since its conception: boring, linear, structured, accessible. I couldn't distinguish between Millencollin, NOFX, early Offspring, etc... to save my life.
So by "real", I meant sincere and dedicated, as opposed to the lazy, half-assed efforts of several skate punk bands.

How the hell is Fugazi emo?
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