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I recently decided that i was going to build my first guitar in shop class so i ordered plans for a firebird. I'm building the body and planned on buying the neck. The plans say that i need a 24 3/4 neck like most gibsons but i was going to buy a neck online that has a 25.5 in. scale. Will this work as long as the length between the nut and the 12th is the same as the bridge and the 12th?

Also, how do you make belly cuts on the back side of the guitar?
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#2
Yeah as long at the nut to bridge distance matches the scale length of the fretboard its ok.

You can make belly cuts a variety of ways, rough cut with a bandsaw, rasp, files, sand paper.




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Yeah as long at the nut to bridge distance matches the scale length of the fretboard its ok.

You can make belly cuts a variety of ways, rough cut with a bandsaw, rasp, files, sand paper.


Alright i will try the files and sandpaper thanks.

I plan on doin a transparent blue finish on a quilted maple top, does anyone have advice on what would be the easiest/best way to do that?
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lay down a 20/80 ratio of stain to water, then sand that back. you'll have little highlights leftover after sanding (don't sand too far). then mix a 10/90 (just take half of what's used in the first to the same amount of water) and do a coat of that. sand that back lightly, and mix a very diluted mixture, just enough to tint the wood. clear the hell out of'er and buff to gloss.
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With files and sandpaper it will take ages (and not get anywhere really). A rasp would be better for roughing the cut than a file, which is better for cleaning it up.

Even with a surform and spokeshaves, its taken me a long time and it's more of a smooth curve at the moment.
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Heres a great method that I found on here. I believe it was Invader Jim's method (Correct me if I'm wrong)
1. Mixed up an extremely dark stain of blue, almost black/purple, and stained. Then I sanded that almost 90% away.
2. Mixed up a slightly lighter stain by adding a touch of water to the original stain, stained the body, sanded about 75% of that away.
3. Mixed up a slightly lighter stain, then sanded that about 50% away.
4. Mixed lighter, sanded 35%.
5. Mixed lighter, sanded 20%.
6. Mixed lighter, sanded 10%.
7. Mixed lighter, no sanding.
8. Wipe with wet rag to remove the portion of step 7 that "covered" the grain, which lets the figuring glisten and whatnot when turned in the light, as apposed to obscuring it with a "dead" layer of stain

That method made is AA flame top look like AAAAA. Srsly.
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^ Thats lumberjacks method if I remember correctly

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lay down a 20/80 ratio of stain to water, then sand that back. you'll have little highlights leftover after sanding (don't sand too far). then mix a 10/90 (just take half of what's used in the first to the same amount of water) and do a coat of that. sand that back lightly, and mix a very diluted mixture, just enough to tint the wood. clear the hell out of'er and buff to gloss.

This will only work for water based stains and dyes, you need to use the appropriate thinner for the type of stain you are using.




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Thanks for all the help! I was reading online about staining and the guy stained the whole body black and then sanded that off so it was just in the grain and then stained it the color he wanted and it looked amazing because off the contrast. is this basically what you guys were saying to do? And also how much should a 1/4 inch quilted maple top cost, or should i do a veneer?
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^ Thats lumberjacks method if I remember correctly
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Thanks for all the help! I was reading online about staining and the guy stained the whole body black and then sanded that off so it was just in the grain and then stained it the color he wanted and it looked amazing because off the contrast. is this basically what you guys were saying to do? And also how much should a 1/4 inch quilted maple top cost, or should i do a veneer?


Yeah you can apply a dark stain, sand back, add colour sand back, add colour etc and it gives a deep colour to the finish and highlight the figuring

Do a 1/4 top, veneers are lame




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Thanks Absent Mind for ur help. does anyone know how much a quilted top should cost though? i plan on going to the woodsmith store in a few days and i want to make sure im getting a good deal.

Also, once this build gets underway i will start a new thread and keep everybody updated on it. i hope it all goes well
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#12
Depends entirely on where you get it, lumber yards will be cheaper than online, although I'm not sure of the quality of the quilt you will be able to get in a lumber yard as places online will specialise in getting the prettiest wood for specialist things like guitars, lumberyards are just the general work horse woods (thats my assumption any way, having never been to one lol).

Prices vary on the amount of figure, starting probably at about $30 for a peice thats actually book matched, thicknessed and ready to use and can run over the hundreds for the top quality stuff.

Also people try and charge a premium for 'tonewoods' and mastergrand quilts on line, so prices can get rediculous.




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