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So my SS Honors teacher assigned this ridiculous task. He knows that we haven't covered any of the content in the cartoon and refuses to answer any questions or anything - he wants us to figure these out. I could use the help of anybody knowledgeable on WW1. He wants us to interpret the message of the cartoons.

http://s5.tinypic.com/2ppeuzc.jpg

I've figured out that the first cartoon is depicting how Wilhelm was a fiend, essentially ordering the slaughtering of many people - but who are the people he slaughtered? Russians? I couldn't figure out the nationality of those heads on the plate.

I'm not sure on the second one. Dave_Mc thinks that Wilhelm is happy that the Bolsheviks are trying to destroy Russia. Sounds right to me, but again, I have no clue.
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Hendriko nailed the third one:
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well i think it might mean that the u-boats were willhelm's "child" - as in he supported them as much as he could, relying on them etc. notice how they're all looking at the unterseeboot with those happy sheepish looks on their faces

But I'm confused when it comes to the woman.. is that a crown she's wearing? Is she supposed to resemble the Queen?

THESE CARTOONS ARE THE TOUGHER ONES, I could really use any sort of help with these two.


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I have NO idea on the first one.. a British man singing and an american woman playing Piano. I don't understand the symbolism.

I'm assuming the last one has something to do with the American's doing something 'blindly', but I have no idea. Seriously, what was the role of Uncle Sam? That's obviously him with the blindfold on.

Sigh. I need help.
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the 2nd one is the bolsheviks taking over russia
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i have a feeling youll get some interesting posts in here..
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the 2nd one imo means that Wilhelm is just awaiting his opportunity because the Bolsheviks and the Russians are tearing their own country apart, making it ripe for the picking
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^ That sounds right.
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So my SS Honors teacher assigned...


WHOA! Stop the Presses! Your teacher is a member of the SS??!!

The second is that the Bolsheviks wanted peace with Germany so they could continue their revolution without having to fight Germany. Lenin agreed with the Kaiser to give Germany large portions of Russia in exchange for Peace, so as you can see the Bolshevik is giving over Russia to Germany.

I got a massive book on WW1, I also think the last one is Churchill and the Lucianna (sp?) you know, the passenger ship that was sunk by a U-Boat that made the US join the war.
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The first is quite obvious. Germany's a butcher killing people.
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I got a massive book on WW1, I also think the last one is Churchill and the Lucianna (sp?) you know, the passenger ship that was sunk by a U-Boat that made the US join the war.


Lusitania
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Interesting. If it is Lusitania what is the relevance of Uncle Sam being blindfolded on it?
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Interesting. If it is Lusitania what is the relevance of Uncle Sam being blindfolded on it?


My internet's being ****ty atm so the pictures won't load, but my guess is that maybe the USA were oblivious to "unrestricted-submarine warfare" until they were affected by it.

That might not be right seeing as I can't see the pictures
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the one with the blindfold could be the US blindly joining the war after the lusitania was sunk

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My internet's being ****ty atm so the pictures won't load, but my guess is that maybe the USA were oblivious to "unrestricted-submarine warfare" until they were affected by it.

That might not be right seeing as I can't see the pictures


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The second one is obvious:

The Bolsheviks dragged Russia into the war. Originally the did not want any part of the war. but the Bolshevik party finally was able to convince the Tsar that it was necessary. Thus the dragging as the Prussian is looking onto what the Russians will do.
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Well the ship in the last one is at/near port so it might not be the Lusitana. IMO I think it might mean Uncle Sam is sending his troops blindly in to a war not knowing what they're actually fighting for.
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I really need some help on the second last cartoon.. I have NO CLUE what it's trying to say.
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In my mind second last one seems to show the support given by the Americans towards the Brits in the war even though early on they had pledged not to be involved. This of course depends on the date of the comics publication though.
The organ bellows seem to remind me of the Americans industrial strength (notice how they resemble chimneys) bolstering my opinion.
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Maybe its trying to show how the U.S was Britain's 'second fiddle' if that makes any sense?
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The second one is Wilhelm essentially standing back and watching the Bolsheviks rape Russia. He knows a civil war in Russia will take them out of the equation, the Bolsheviks were against the war. This would leave his troops on the Eastern front free for action in the west.

I'll look at the third one now..
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Okay, the first one on the second link seems to imply the united states using religion as a rallying cry perhaps? The thing around the guys head seems like a Halo, like the ones in Medieval paintings and such. The 'church' organ also goes along with that. (it has 'Bethlehem Steel' engraved on it) I like K-Jacks hypothesis too.

Ill look at the next one now..
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I like LankeyDwarf's analysis of the second picture in the second link. The ship is not the Lusitania though, it has a gun on it, and the Lusitania was a passenger ship not a war ship. Perhaps it stating something about the United States being unprepared and inexperienced as well.
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From the second link, the second picture might be referring to the Americans supplying the western allies with arms and supplies whilst supposedly remaining neutral.
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From the second link, the second picture might be referring to the Americans supplying the western allies with arms and supplies whilst supposedly remaining neutral.



Very good point.
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The 1st is about Kaiser Wilhelm "butchering" parliament and stuff, second is the Bolsheviks taking over Russia by force, and the third one is the start of a porno I just hired.
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From the second link, the second picture might be referring to the Americans supplying the western allies with arms and supplies whilst supposedly remaining neutral.

Would you mind explaining how you came to that conclusion?
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Nah this is his brother.
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Would you mind explaining how you came to that conclusion?


Well looking at the background id say it was stateside, uncle sam is being blindfolded willingly by who i assume is a British sailor. The ship looks to be carrying arms by the look of the gun barrel poking out of the hole.

Alternatively it might be a reference to the U.S's use of destroyers to protect convoys against u-boats despite being neutural or the use of Q-ships or even possibly the Lusitania BUT im much more doubtful about those interpretations.
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Okay, the first one on the second link seems to imply the united states using religion as a rallying cry perhaps? The thing around the guys head seems like a Halo, like the ones in Medieval paintings and such. The 'church' organ also goes along with that. (it has 'Bethlehem Steel' engraved on it) I like K-Jacks hypothesis too.

Ill look at the next one now..

It's a hat, with the british flag on the inside of the rim..

What do you think it means now? I'm still lost on this one to an extent.
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For the last one on the second link, I'm having trouble thinking why this cartoon is trying to depict the U.S going blindly into war. What is there to support this?
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(a) The second is that the Bolsheviks wanted peace with Germany so they could continue their revolution without having to fight Germany. Lenin agreed with the Kaiser to give Germany large portions of Russia in exchange for Peace, so as you can see the Bolshevik is giving over Russia to Germany.

I got a massive book on WW1, I also think the last one is Churchill and the Lucianna (sp?) you know, the passenger ship that was sunk by a U-Boat that made the US join the war.


(a) yeah, that's what i meant the russian revolution took russia out of the war, letting germany concentrate on the western front (i think).

(b) ah, that's a good idea. that might be it. EDIT: not too sure about churchill, though- i think he was in politics by then, but was he high enough up?

oh, on your second set of pics... i have no idea what the last one is.

the first one, with the piano, might be that the USA's industrial might (the USA woman is playing an organ, but its pipes resemble factories' stacks) will help britain to be victorious in the war. could be wrong... a lot of those old cartoons are really hard to decipher, the drawing are very hard to see...
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