#1
Hi GG&A, I'm looking to get a smoother tone for lead out of my rig. The gain on my 5150 sounds pretty harsh most of the time, especially when turned to a medium level. The method that works for me is turning the gain up higher, but then it's too much for the tone I want. When I turn the gain down, the tone is too harsh/sharp and brittle sounding.

I've got an EQ, but I haven't played around with it enough because I wasn't hearing results.

Can you guys help me out, thanks.
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#2
your best option is to lose the spider III. that should really help....


...try using a bad monkey for a dynamic boost.
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#3
Harshness usually comes from the upper frequencies. Using your 10 band EQ, find the area that causes the harshness and cut that area (as well as a slight cut on the adjacent bands). Another way to get rid of harshness or to smooth out your tone would be to use some subtle chorus (post-distortion).
EDIT: What spider3 ?

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#4
I'm not using the Spider dude, I'm using the 5150.
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#5
For the 10 band, try either cutting the treble frequencies or boosting the mid and bass. Add some gain for a little extra saturation.
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Try light pedal overdrive with a compressor, sort of a Dave Gilmour approach.
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#7
Quote by Soul Eater
I'm not using the Spider dude, I'm using the 5150.

it was a joke, dude.
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#8
Quote by theoreticmusic
it was a joke, dude.

Read his sig. . .
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#9
are you cranking your amp? if not, try turning the gain way down (like near 0), then cranking the vol.
i know this will be fvcking loud, but if it gets the desired tone, you might want to get an attenuator later on, or just crank it at gigs etc...
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#10
Quote by High_o
are you cranking your amp? if not, try turning the gain way down (like near 0), then cranking the vol.
i know this will be fvcking loud, but if it gets the desired tone, you might want to get an attenuator later on, or just crank it at gigs etc...

you don't get modern metal tone doing that. modern metal is almost all preamp gain, and no power amp distortion.


and for real, I know he's talking about the 5150. i saw the spider iii in the sig and made a funny.
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#11
Quote by theoreticmusic
it was a joke, dude.

your sig is appropriate for this situation
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#12
Quote by theoreticmusic
you don't get modern metal tone doing that. modern metal is almost all preamp gain, and no power amp distortion.


and for real, I know he's talking about the 5150. i saw the spider iii in the sig and made a funny.

to be fair, he never mentioned what genre he was playing, only that he wanted a smoother tone (which my method should provide). plus he said his tone was too harsh - to me that wounds like he's not looking for a very modern metal sound, but w/e
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#13
I'm looking for a tone along the lines of a shred tone (Steve Vai) if that helps.
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#14
Quote by High_o
to be fair, he never mentioned what genre he was playing, only that he wanted a smoother tone (which my method should provide). plus he said his tone was too harsh - to me that wounds like he's not looking for a very modern metal sound, but w/e

true, i guess, but it's hard to imagine anyone playing anything except modern metal on a 5150.


TS: really, try a Bad Monkey.
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#15
Use the Rhythm channel and a boost.
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#16
What settings do you suggest for the rhythm channel?
I actually was referring to that before, but never stated it.
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#18
Quote by Soul Eater
What settings do you suggest for the rhythm channel?
I actually was referring to that before, but never stated it.

I don't know to be honest, the 6505+'s Rhythm ch. apparently has less gain and sounds brighter than the 6505's... You should still try to dial out some bass and keep the bright switch on though, it sounds too fat imo.
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#19
hmm, its hard to get a smooth lead tone out of that amp from my experience. but my idea would be to mess around A LOT with the EQ pedal, and try using the EQ to boost the front of the amp, and lower the preamp gain a bit. thats all i can think of
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#20
I want to lower the preamp gain, but then it gets dry and harsh.
That's my problem.
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1989 Ibanez RG750
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Spider III 15W
Yamaha FG700S

GAS list:
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