#1
If i were to dish out the money (there is only a $100 difference between them) which one is a better amp for the money?
#2
Play them both and find out, they've got some differences.
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#4
We can't help unless you tell us what you're looking for and what genres you're playing.

The difference between the two is huge.
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#5
Fender=Sparkly Cleans, So-so drive.
AC30= Edgy Cleans, loud as fark, Brilliant drive.


But they're completely different animals.
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#6
too big of a difference between the two man.

vox- does mid gain sounds very weill and a chimey clean

fender twin - really crappy distortion but arguably the best clean sound there is. this is the tabula rasa for layering effects if thats your thing

if you want a really great distortion sound and good cleans too, go for the vox.

they are totally different amps
#7
^ what theo said.
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#8
Quote by theoreticmusic
Fender=Sparkly Cleans, So-so drive.
AC30= Edgy Cleans, loud as fark, Brilliant drive.


But they're completely different animals.


Yeah, you'd really have to try them, I have a Twin Reverb and it's a nice amp, reverbs super nice and it can sound warm, it can sound sparkly and have edge to it, but it's way louder than it needs to be I never get it full volume, but it takes pedals incredibly well and theres tons of headroom. It's 85 watts, I'm going to say THIS amp is loud as fark.
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too big of a difference between the two man.

vox- does mid gain sounds very weill and a chimey clean

fender twin - really crappy distortion but arguably the best clean sound there is. this is the tabula rasa for layering effects if thats your thing

if you want a really great distortion sound and good cleans too, go for the vox.

they are totally different amps


He's talking about the Twin Reverb, which has no gain option at all it's a clean amp.
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#10
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Yeah, you'd really have to try them, I have a Twin Reverb and it's a nice amp, reverbs super nice and it can sound warm, it can sound sparkly and have edge to it, but it's way louder than it needs to be I never get it full volume, but it takes pedals incredibly well and theres tons of headroom. It's 85 watts, I'm going to say THIS amp is loud as fark.

Well, yeah...85 watt tube amps tend to be

The Vox is loud as fark for its size.
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#11
It all comes down to this:

British or American voiced?

I'd go for the ac30, personally.
#12
Quote by AthenasGhost
He's talking about the Twin Reverb, which has no gain option at all it's a clean amp.

That doesn't mean it's a clean amp, the twin reverb will break up around 5-6 or so like any other tube amp of it's type. Early Marshalls and Vox AC30s didn't have gain control either.
#14
As others have said, depends on what you're playing, but overall I'd say the AC30 is a more versatile amp. Plus, having a separate Master volume makes it easy to really push the tubes to breakup without going deaf. And yeah, Vox's 30 amps are 30 LOUD amps because it's Class A alllll the way.
#15
No one interested in what guitars are used?
These two legendary amps are top of the tree for their own particular styles. You play a Les Paul through the Twin and it can sound heavenly (best reverb there is). Play an original Strat through the Vox and you soon run out of puff. I know, I did this with another guy playing a LP Custom through another AC30. Brillians as the AC30 is, its no match for the 85 (or 100 on some new models) of the Fender. Style is another factor. Pop and CW may be better from the Vox, but classic rock is better on the Twin.
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#16
You can get natural breakup on the Twin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNbQFg-R9bM
Even with 2 tubes pulled this has got to be painfully loud, but wow ... this is tone.

AC30 is a chimey, British voiced amp with more gain at usable volumes than the Twin. Some people think they sound a bit thin by themselves, but they seem to work into mixes very well. Alot of performing guitarists like to run 2 in stereo. They are immensely popular in light rock, pop, contemporary Christian music, and music that isn't too heavy.

The Twin is the prototypical shimmering, liquidy clean Fender tone with great built in reverb. The clean tones are a little thicker but there is less gain on tap than the AC30. The Twin is used in lots of the same genres. I think the AC30 is probably more versatile by itself, but when pedals are thrown into the mix they are probably equally versatile.

The Twin is my personal favorite, but it's too powerful and heavy for my needs. I'm keeping an eye out for a Deluxe Reverb which is similar to a Twin but in 1x12 configuration with roughly 1/4 the wattage.

Neither amp is better, it depends on your needs. btw these are performance amps, very loud and way overkill for home practice IMO.
#17
Quote by hunter33
btw these are performance amps, very loud and way overkill for home practice IMO.

So true. That AC30 is loud as hell. Remember, one was used on stage by The Beatles at the concert in SHEA STADIUM!
#18
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So true. That AC30 is loud as hell. Remember, one was used on stage by The Beatles at the concert in SHEA STADIUM!

With a microphone in front of it.

You could use a 2 watt amp in a stadium. :P
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Quote by CasinoEpiphone
So true. That AC30 is loud as hell. Remember, one was used on stage by The Beatles at the concert in SHEA STADIUM!


Again, I have to stress that the AC30 has a master volume which lets you dial in any level of breakup without additional volume.
#20
Quote by ghiyath
If i were to dish out the money (there is only a $100 difference between them) which one is a better amp for the money?

Well tell us what style of music you play and we can argue about which is better for that genre.
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#21
Being a proud owner of the AC30, I have to agree with all that's been said above.

However, there is one thing that I should stress: If you're considering using pedals (i.e. distortion, very heavy distortion and what-have-you) with the AC30, DON'T! This thing is the perfect amp if you use a good overdrive or booster pedal. It doesn't need much more than that. Distortion is overkill. I'm simply saying this because if you're asking about it, there's no way you're gonna be playing metal on it.
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#22
Quote by echo_4190
With a microphone in front of it.

You could use a 2 watt amp in a stadium. :P

Actually you are a little off on that. The VOX amps were to be used in Shea Stadium without the PA system. Last minute, due to the idea of the screaming fans, the amps were miked up. However, and this is my point, the AC30, which was used for the Continental organ, did not have a microphone on it at all. That thing was loud enough to do the job. But I'd guess you would have to ask someone who sat in the last row if they heard the organ on "I'm Down." But then, the probably didn't even hear any of the band on "I'm Down" or any other tune that night. PA or straight amp, nothing really got through that night.
#23
Actually I'll keep this Beatles idea that everyone is using.

If you like early Beatles sounds (up till about 65),go for the AC30

If you like later Beatles sounds (Harrison and Lennon used a Twin Reverb later on), then go for the Twin Reverb


Keep in mind they had single coils pickups on all their guitars except for 'Lucy' (Harrison's Red Les Paul from Eric Clapton)
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