#1
ive heard some people complain that floyd rose trems are a pain to operate. how big of a deal is this? im just wondering because im considering buying a jackson rr3, which has a floyd. just how big of a hassle are these things?
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#2
not that much, probably takes an extra 5-10 minutes to string and tune up compared to a hard tail guitar.

just make sure you block the bridge when you take the strings off, and be aware that you'll have to tune up 10+ times for the bridge to balance out and stabilise.

only thing that's a pain is drop tunings, you'll have to find a higher gauge string or adjust the springs behind the black plate to replace the lost tension in the low E (to keep the bridge level with the body).
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#3
Like the above post said, it will take a little longer to restring. It will stay in tune for alot longer though, the only time you'll need to retune is if you drop tune or w/e. As for losing tension when drop tuning, I can go to drop D without unbalancing the bridge and then back up again.
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#4
Quote by Birchall17
Like the above post said, it will take a little longer to restring. It will stay in tune for alot longer though, the only time you'll need to retune is if you drop tune or w/e. As for losing tension when drop tuning, I can got to drop D without unbalancing the bridge and then back up again.

No, you can't
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#5
Drop C gives me a tiny amount of fret buzz compared to D standard.

Changing strings isn't that big a deal - block trem / do them one at a time. You only get **** in the face when you break a string and everything else goes out of tune.
#6
Get a Temol-No. They're awesome. I'm not a big trem user, but I like the locking and metal nut of a floyd rose plus the fine tuners. The temol-no gives you all that with the rock solid stability of a hard tail. Plus if you want trem ability just unlock it. 50 bucks very well spent IMO.
#7
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No, you can't


Sorry I forgot you've seen and played my guitar, I actually CAN go from standard to drop D.
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#8
it just takes patience. on my ibanez with the ZR I can go to drop D and back up and it really doesn't change tuning drastically, but it still changes
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#9
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Sorry I forgot you've seen and played my guitar, I actually CAN go from standard to drop D.

as usual steve is right, without a D-tuna you cannot de tune your 6th string with out throwing the rest of your strings sharp.....its impossible. You can go to drop d, but you will spend time adjusting all the other 5 and the trem will sink into the cavity.
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it just takes patience. on my ibanez with the ZR I can go to drop D and back up and it really doesn't change tuning drastically, but it still changes

the ZR is different from the floyd. its more "hinge-like" it reacts differently to tuning changes
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#11
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the ZR is different from the floyd. its more "hinge-like" it reacts differently to tuning changes


yep it is different, I just wanted to point out that the tuning still changes just slightly
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#12
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Sorry I forgot you've seen and played my guitar, I actually CAN go from standard to drop D.

It isn't physically possible to alter the tuning on an unmodified Floyd without the other strings going out of tune - if you can then congratulations, your guitar defies the laws of physics and I'm sure Stephen Hawking would love to see it.

Either that or your ears suck and you can't tell when you're out of tune.

The ZR trem is a bit different as the zero point system is designed to compensate for that very problem by allowing you to alter the force required to move the bridge.
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#13
^sounds like somebody doesnt have perfect pitch!
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#15
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You really can't. The other strings will not be correctly tuned, without the trem slanting back into the trem cavity.
#16
To both of those making claims to being able to downtune and retain the tuning, please make a recording as proof. We will soon see who is right.
#19
I have a floyd rose Speed loader on my BC rich and I love it, you can change a string in less than a minute and it comes back in tune, perect for gigs, and taking a spring out of the back takes it to drop c, all being required is fine tuning.
#20
uhh, to those saying you cant go to drop d, my guitar is in drop d atm, and in 10 seconds using the fine tuners you can move it back to standard.... all you have to do is tune it to drop d when you first tune it and use the fine tuner to bring it a full tone sharp, mine can do it and its only a l-fr you people with big expensive ones better be able to do it.

OT : they really arent that hard, ive had my floyd for like a week and i can already tune it like a pro, the first time i set it up its a biotch, but if you do it right the first time its fairly easy to upkeep
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#21
^ Don't you mean a full tone flat?

And yes. You can do that. But that causes all the other strings to sharpen. If you sort all of them out using the fine tuners, the trem will be in the cavity, i.e. not set-up correctly.
#22
i second the recordings idea! even better put a vid on youtube! i bet the whole guitar playing world would LOVE to see a fully-floating floyd go to drop-D without the other strings going out! i would pay just to watch that!

but seriously, its impossible in every meaning of the word. unless of course you have a trem stabalizer(tremol-no, zero resistance system(i think that is what its called),...) then you can drop and raise the tunings every second without worrying.
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#23
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uhh, to those saying you cant go to drop d, my guitar is in drop d atm, and in 10 seconds using the fine tuners you can move it back to standard.... all you have to do is tune it to drop d when you first tune it and use the fine tuner to bring it a full tone sharp, mine can do it and its only a l-fr you people with big expensive ones better be able to do it.

OT : they really arent that hard, ive had my floyd for like a week and i can already tune it like a pro, the first time i set it up its a biotch, but if you do it right the first time its fairly easy to upkeep


umm this guy has no idea. Intonation and action also goes out with a change in tuning.
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