#1
Hey guys. I've been playing for like two months (I know my join date is old but I never actually played! ) and I'm trying to find a nice humbucking guitar. I'm currently using a MIM Strat just to learn on, but it's not technically mine so I need a replacement, and I'm not into that bright Fender Strat sound.

So I was at a guitar store yesterday and I was testing out Epiphone Standards and just fiddling around, when I saw a Gibson BFG on sale for basically the same price ($700 Canadian).

I held it and did some open chords and it felt fine (I liked the unpainted neck), but I don't really have any experience judging guitars, and I only have a few little things I can play decently.

So anyway, I'm wondering if these guitars are worth considering -- subjective dislike of their appearance aside? I don't mind the looks, I'm mainly interested in finding the best constructed guitar with the best materials I can in my price range (with a ballsy LP sound). I've heard low end Gibsons are trash from some sources .
Last edited by Ant0 at Feb 26, 2009,
#2
you've oly been playing for two months...your styles might change in the next 2 months, i dont think you should make such a large purchase. But what amp do you have? if you have a high gain monster than you wont even be able to hear the strats brightness
#3
wait until you develop a style that you're sure of before you make that big of purchase. Youve only been playing 4 2 months
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#4
It's all about what you like. If you play the guitar and like it then buy it and keep it. If you don't like the way it feels then keep looking until you find something that you do like. It's all about opinion and what you prefer. As for the comment about low end Gibsons being trash, I don't think thats entirely true. Obviously it's not gonna be as nice as a $3k LP Custom or anything, but it will be one of the nicer guitars in it's price range.
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#5
Well I have to get a guitar, as borrowing the MIM Strat is becoming cumbersome.

So, I'd be spending at least 400 or so on a MIM Fender or something, and I've got money kicking around so making the jump to 700 isn't that much of a stretch. I've always been a huge fan of the Slash/Joe Perry sound.

I just play through my sister's amp which is I think a Fender Champion 600.
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Well I have to get a guitar, as borrowing the MIM Strat is becoming cumbersome.

So, I'd be spending at least 400 or so on a MIM Fender or something, and I've got money kicking around so making the jump to 700 isn't that much of a stretch. I've always been a huge fan of the Slash/Joe Perry sound.

I just play through my sister's amp which is I think a Fender Champion 600.


I gotta say I would recommend getting some form of Epiphone standard, get one second hand as a lower-end Gibson will depreciate substantially whereas a second hand Epi will more than likely get you your money back if you sell it. There will always be more beginner guitarists looking for an Epi than a Gibson.
#7
f*ck it.

if you want it, go for it, i personally don't reall ycare what other people say about my guitars, i like them because they feel good for me.
#8
An Epiphone with a higher resale value than a Gibson...If you have the money and you like the BFG then by that SOB!!!!
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#9
i wouldn't say it's a bad idea- just try it first. i've only tried one, i liked how it sounded, but its playability was terrible, it felt like it had been fretted by a blind monkey.
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#10
oh i didnt no you were borrowing the strat..
in that case, the bfg is versatile enough, but i agree with dave mc, when i played one, it felt...dry? i cant really explain, you'd have to try it out yourself.
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#12
Yeah, BFGs aren't that great as far as Gibsons go. From the two I've played, I've not seen a quality-based reason to pick one over say, an Epi standard or Vintage/Rally/Agile/Tokai equivalent.

However, they do have one thing going for them. The humbucker/P90 combination is fairly rare in off-the-shelf LPs, and personally I really like the tone.
You said though that you're "not into that bright Fender Strat sound", and that mostly comes fromt he fact the Fender has singlecoil pickups compared to the humbuckers on an LP. Of course the P-90 that's in a Gibson BFG is in fact a type of singlecoil, so it will have a slightly brighter, jangly tone. It's not as bright as your Strat will sound, but it's certainly quite different from the usual thick LP tone most people are used to.

Pretty much for the reason alone, I wouldn't recommend buying it. It's a pretty specialised tone that most people (from the sound of it, including you) won't find much use for.
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#13
Quote by John5rules125
wait until you develop a style that you're sure of before you make that big of purchase. Youve only been playing 4 2 months

Yes.

My taste in guitars and tones changed a lot from when I first started during my first few months. I was into a lot of metal and distortion, loved Les Pauls and SGs. Now 5 years later I'm playing Strats and Teles (or guitars based on those designs) 95% of the time, playing mostly blues which I HATED at first.

Back when I wanted my second guitar after playing my starter, I had money to spend and thought of dropping a couple hundred, like you, into a new one. People talked me out of it and I'm glad they did. When you're a new player, your taste is always changing.

If you want a Les Paul, I think you should look into Epis, or LP copies by Agile and Xaviere (guitarfetish). With Agiles and Xavieres you can get a VERY nice Les Paul by spending about $300-400. Those would compete with Epis and are good enough to last your playing career. This way you can see if this is really what you want without blowing all your money. I think you should look into other brands besides Gibson.

But the choice is up to you.
#14
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Yeah, BFGs aren't that great as far as Gibsons go. From the two I've played, I've not seen a quality-based reason to pick one over say, an Epi standard or Vintage/Rally/Agile/Tokai equivalent.

However, they do have one thing going for them. The humbucker/P90 combination is fairly rare in off-the-shelf LPs, and personally I really like the tone.


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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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