#1
Ok...I'm having trouble making up my mind for buying new gear. I could never seem to settle down on a choice. Thus this thread is born. I'll try to write all the questions I need to lead me to some new gear.
Right! So, stuff about me:
- I currently have a Godin Freeway Classic and a Roland Cube Street amp.
- I play classic rock, blues and anything else except metal.
- I am currently a bedroom guitarist. Hopefully I'll join a band this year.
- Budget for guitar is 1000$
- Budget for the amp is 2000$ tops, preferably under.

The situation:
I currently have 1000$, enough for a new guitar. BUT I won't have enough money to buy a new amp before the end of summer (september-ish) if I buy the guitar now. If I don't buy the guitar now, I'll have enough money in a few months for the amp.

Question#1
Should I upgrade the guitar first, or the amp first?

I'm 90% sure the new guitar I'm buying is a MIA Stratocaster.
The amp, however, is still a complete mystery.

The amp

I want a combo tube amp that suits my styles.

Question #2
Seeing I'm a bedroom guitarist that probably won't play in a band for a while, do I buy a lower wattage amp (5W) then buy a higher wattage amp (20-30W) when I join a band (I really have no idea when I will... )? Or do I buy the higher wattage right away?

Question #3
This'll be my first tube amp. Should I buy boutique or not? Is there that much of a difference in quality between non-boutique and boutique?

Question #4
Depending on what you answered for the other questions, can you recommend me some amps?

I think I wrote down all I need...Hope so.


Thanks
If the most sought after things are often the most simple, then:

6 shoelaces of varying sizes tied onto a branch
+ 1 Quarter (pick)
----------------------------
= ULTIMATE TONE
#2
Amp > guitar in terms of priority unless you're literally playing a 2x4 with a pickup in it (like Les Paul used to do!).

Boutique amps:

65 Amps
Divided by 13 amps
Budda Superdrive 18/30
Dr. Z Maz 18
Goodsell
Ceriatone Marshall clones

Non-boutique amps:

Mesa Express 5:25
Mesa Lonestar
Orange Dual Terror (is a head, but just get a 1x12 cab with it or something)
Peavey Classic 30
Traynor YCS, YCV
Fender HRD + Omega amplifiers modifications (technically will be boutique when they're done with it)
Fender Blues Junior

Don't bother with a 5w amp, it'll still be too loud to crank in your bedroom.
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#3
if I had 2,000$, a Dr. Z would be what i'd buy. check out their site for the amp that suits your style.
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#4
I think the Mesa 5:25 is a perfect option.
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but I'm the type that like to light another joint like Cypress Hill
#5
Thanks for the recommendations!
So I get the amp before the guitar.
I buy the higher wattage amp now, not buying the 5w.
But should I go boutique or not?
If the most sought after things are often the most simple, then:

6 shoelaces of varying sizes tied onto a branch
+ 1 Quarter (pick)
----------------------------
= ULTIMATE TONE
#6
I'm assuming you don't have a lot of experience with high end amps? If that's the case I wouldn't go out and buy something boutique without experience. I'd get something cheaper used and keep that while you hunt for your ultimate amp. If you go used you'll probably be able to sell it again later without a loss.

I could think of a million amps to recommend, but if you give us some tones you'd like to emulate then we can narrow down what to look at.


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#7
Quote by Kevin Saale
I'm assuming you don't have a lot of experience with high end amps? If that's the case I wouldn't go out and buy something boutique without experience. I'd get something cheaper used and keep that while you hunt for your ultimate amp. If you go used you'll probably be able to sell it again later without a loss. I could think of a million amps to recommend, but if you give us some tones you'd like to emulate then we can narrow down what to look at.

No, I don't have experience with higher-end amps. I guess you're right about getting a cheaper one first.
For the tones, I'd like the amp to nail classic rock and blues, but have some kind of uniqueness to it? I don't know if that's possible?
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BTW, your sig lies, the source codes says it is in fact green


Oh noes! My trick has been discovered!


AH! and another question for amps. If I were to roll back the master volume on an amp and push the volume, could I get overdrive at bedroom levels?
If the most sought after things are often the most simple, then:

6 shoelaces of varying sizes tied onto a branch
+ 1 Quarter (pick)
----------------------------
= ULTIMATE TONE
#8
I meant something more specific like a famous guitarists tone. I know you probably wanna make your own sound, but this is just something to get an idea of what that tone is.

You can do that and you will get overdrive, it just won't sound as good as it would if the master was cranked a bit. Not to say it will sound bad, but really it depends on the amp. Some amps sound good quiet, some sound terrible.
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#9
By the way, the Mesa Express series is not that great. You shouldn't consider that and a Dr. Z in the same sentence. If you want that tone, the Mesa F-30 (Express predecessor) is a much better option.
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#10
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By the way, the Mesa Express series is not that great. You shouldn't consider that and a Dr. Z in the same sentence. If you want that tone, the Mesa F-30 (Express predecessor) is a much better option.



Hell, if you're gonna do that might as well get a mark IIIC, blows all of those amps away.
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#11
ok then uhmmm,
Cleaner stuff: nice cleans...Dick Dale i guess?
Blues: BB King, SRV
Classic rock: Deep Purple, Clapton, Hendrix, Page
Harder rock: say AC/DC, Neil Young's harder stuff
Others: King Crimson, Pink Floyd, White Stripes
If the most sought after things are often the most simple, then:

6 shoelaces of varying sizes tied onto a branch
+ 1 Quarter (pick)
----------------------------
= ULTIMATE TONE
#12
for an amp look into a Bogner Shiva. It gets great tones from clean to blues to metal
My Gear
Guitars:
-Gibson Les Paul Studio
-Ibanez "lawsuit" Les Paul
-Ibanez S470
-PRS SE Custom

Amp:
Marshall TSL100
Marshall 1960a cab

Effects:
Dunlop 535q wah
Visual Sound Liquid Chorus

Pickups:
Guitarforce
MHD
#13
Damn, I was afraid that would happen, lots of fender tones and lots of marshall tones. You might have to go on an exploration and try everything and see what you like.
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#14
Quote by JLT73
for an amp look into a Bogner Shiva. It gets great tones from clean to blues to metal


Probably my dream amp. I look at it and I drool. Then I look at the price...

Quote by Kevin Saale
Damn, I was afraid that would happen, lots of fender tones and lots of marshall tones. You might have to go on an exploration and try everything and see what you like.


Which ones would be the fender tones and which ones the marshalls?
Could I fix the marshall problem by getting a fender tone amp and getting some pedals? Are there no amps that could nail both tones?
If the most sought after things are often the most simple, then:

6 shoelaces of varying sizes tied onto a branch
+ 1 Quarter (pick)
----------------------------
= ULTIMATE TONE
#15
Quote by MCRibz
Probably my dream amp. I look at it and I drool. Then I look at the price...


I've seen used combos heads go for 1200+
My Gear
Guitars:
-Gibson Les Paul Studio
-Ibanez "lawsuit" Les Paul
-Ibanez S470
-PRS SE Custom

Amp:
Marshall TSL100
Marshall 1960a cab

Effects:
Dunlop 535q wah
Visual Sound Liquid Chorus

Pickups:
Guitarforce
MHD
#16
Dick Dale i guess? Fender twin reverb
BB King twin reverb,
SRV all kinds of fenders, tweed and blackface, dumble SSS
Deep Purple Pretty sure marshall, probably a plexi,
Clapton, in cream it's a marshall bluesbreaker, later stuff is a fender twin I think,
Hendrix, studio fenders and fuzz faces, live marshall plexis,
Page all sorts of stuff, the later stuff is overdriven marshalls
AC/DC, marshall JTM45,
Neil Young's harder stuff, not sure
Pink Floyd, hiwatt (british crunch like marshal), and a huge pedal board,
White Stripes, not sure on amp, distortion is from a big muff methinks.
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Last edited by Kevin Saale at Feb 26, 2009,
#17
So is it possible to get a Marshall-esque sound with some pedals?
If the most sought after things are often the most simple, then:

6 shoelaces of varying sizes tied onto a branch
+ 1 Quarter (pick)
----------------------------
= ULTIMATE TONE
#18
Check out a Carvin Bolt. Matches up to USA strat but cost less and still USA made.

For the amp, Blackheart Handsome Devil head and Blackheart 1x12 cab. Play at 7 or 15 watts. Sweet.

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Last edited by OldRocker at Feb 26, 2009,
#19
Another idea might be something like a Randall MTS and get the modules you want. I was also thinking a 5153 for fender cleans but the lead channels are more of an americanized version of the marshall tone. Something to consider though. Used of course.
#20
If I were to get a Marshall, which one would suit me best? One that could get good cleans, and that Marshall thang.
If the most sought after things are often the most simple, then:

6 shoelaces of varying sizes tied onto a branch
+ 1 Quarter (pick)
----------------------------
= ULTIMATE TONE