#1
I've had an ongoing issue with most of my guitars and the string tension on them. I use 9's on them but if i tune to standard or e flat even the strings just seem to tight for me. Now i know how to set up a guitar pretty good, the truss rod is right, its intoned. . .

What can i do? it seems like my only option is to tune down a step or so. . .
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#2
so this issue is with every guitar?

more than likely you need to strengthen your fingers more, i use 10's and they feel flimsy to me somedays.
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#3
tune down and play metal. it's the only logical thing i see here.
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#5
8s? Ernie Ball makes super-extra-amazing slinkies if you can't deal with 9s. You should eventually build up some strength in the old fingers, though.
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#6
its really not a string thing, its more a picking thing. And i do play metal, i just have a light touch witht he pick and i like high speeds to just come really easy you know?
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i like high speeds to just come really easy you know?


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#9
Scale length has a big effect on tension. MY 25.5 scale strat with 9s feels like my 24.75 LP with 10s. Just gonna need to build up some finger strength. Or play everything drop tuned.
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tune down and play metal. it's the only logical thing i see here.


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#12
you need to strengthen the dexterity of your fingers, tune to standard tuning, and just to alot of practice warmups. such as bends slides. it might cut up your finger tipes but it happens, its just like weight training, no pain no gain
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#13
Ok, to start with, IVE BEEN PLAYING GUITAR FOR 12 YEARS! my finger strength is fine. its hard to explain but its a type of sound that i like, my synyster custom is the art of perfection, as my truckster is. which are different scales, it realy throws my off. my sz520 which is a 25.1 is actually the most perfect feeling fretboard ever, and my les paul prophecy is the one i have trouble with.

just because i dont like a guitar to play against doesnt mean that my fingers are weak. its like when your playing baseball, and you hit a ball just right and it just flies off the bat like butter, compared to when you hit a ball ****ed up and it hurts your hands real bad.

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#14
11's in standard feel loose to me now. Its just finger strength just play a lot.

EDIT: nevermind, just saw your post above.
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Very...very logical indeed!


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#17
There's no "problem" with anything - you just bought a guitar that doesn't suit you, surely after 12 years you know that they all feel different.
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#18
The beauty of a TOM style setup is there are two ways to reduce string tension. The first way is to raise the stop tailpiece off the body some to change the angle the strings run over the bridge at. The second is to insert your strings differently.... you insert them thru the tailpiece from front to back and bring them over the top of the tailpiece (J Page/J Bonamassa style) This basically changes the angle over the bridge as well but allows yuo to keep your tailpiece mounted to the top firmly which some people prefer for sustain.
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The beauty of a TOM style setup is there are two ways to reduce string tension. The first way is to raise the stop tailpiece off the body some to change the angle the strings run over the bridge at. The second is to insert your strings differently.... you insert them thru the tailpiece from front to back and bring them over the top of the tailpiece (J Page/J Bonamassa style) This basically changes the angle over the bridge as well but allows yuo to keep your tailpiece mounted to the top firmly which some people prefer for sustain.


I've actually tried that, in all honesty i think the biggest issue is the angle of which the neck has been set.
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#22
Unless you want the neck sitting way off the body, you need a neck angle to provide the clearance for a TOM. Only bolt-ons with low profile bridges can get away with a straight set neck.
Maybe you should stick to flat topped solid bodies with bolt on necks and no TOMs!
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#23
I wish I had that problem with every guitar. I agree that your picking and fingers become stronger and that has an effect on tension, but I also think that the specs of the guitar have an effect on string tension as well.

My Ibanez RG (flat as hell, fixed bridge, 25.5" scale, medium frets, bolt-on neck) has moderatley high tension which I love. My ESP (angled neck, arched top, string thru with tonepros bridge, 25.5" scale, xjumbo frets, set neck) has low string tension which I hate. I've heard that tuning machines also effect tension (?). I dont know if this is true, but it seems logical that strings wrapped multiple times around tuning posts would be more stable than strings that are simply put through a hole and not wrapped. Also it's a fact that if the strings go in a straight line from the bridge to the tuners (i.e the strings aren't angled fromt the nut to the tuning machines) that have better stability and a bit higher tension.

I'm going to look into this more because I've heard all kinds of different players with different experience argue about string tension. Hope that helps.

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