#1
Can u give me some chord progressions to test my key analyzing from a major scale?

and also how do see if the key is minor
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#3
in a minor key the root is usually minor

also

majoy key the I, IV and V are major with the VII being diminished

and in a minor key the III, VI and VII are major

thats a rough idea unless the songs use harmonic progressions or somesuch
#4
Quote by rorywal
in a minor key the root is usually minor
If the tonic isn't minor, you're not in a minor key.

How about we let him answer my question before throwing anything more at the guy? I posted what I did for a very specific purpose that I will reveal when the question has been answered BY THE TS, even if the answer is wrong, upon request.
#5
you can make the key major so long as everything else remains minor, its just a variation
#6
No...

Please post an example to either prove me wrong or so I can explain the flaw in your knowledge.

TS, I will work with you on your question as well. Don't let this distract you.
#7
Quote by bangoodcharlote
G# A#m D# E#m C#

Read the theory link in my sig and/or the Crusade articles.


that would be G# major right?
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#8
Don't worry about modes yet. Most people who talk about them don't really know what they are and don't even use them, but they're confusing, so learn the basic material first.

Yes, it is in G#. Can you write the general chord progression using Roman Numerals (ie I IV V)?
#10
Quote by bangoodcharlote
Don't worry about modes yet. Most people who talk about them don't really know what they are and don't even use them, but they're confusing, so learn the basic material first.

Yes, it is in G#. Can you write the general chord progression using Roman Numerals (ie I IV V)?


I,II,V,VI,IV
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#12
Quote by bangoodcharlote
Not quite. There are minor chords in there.


Oh i need to do a little more studying up then i dont understand the minor part of it. All that i get is i see the note and put the roman numeral as in that note of the scale.
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#14
Quote by rorywal
put the minors as lower case ie i not I

Then would it be

I,ii,V,vi,VI
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#16
wouldnt the b7 give it away to be in E major, that was just by glancing at it or was that a minor key because the Em? i havent figured out how to do minor that good yet.

EDIT

it would have to be minor wouldnt it, because the way i was taught for major scales is that the dominant 7th chord would always be 5th in the scale so that would make it E major, but there is an Em so it cant be a major
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#18
honestly i dont understand minor chord progressions without just using my ear. i used crusades part 7 and it didnt explain minor chord progressions and circle of fifths just confuses me.
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#19
Read the lesson in my sig. An alternate wording may help. Don't just read it and say, "I don't get it," and ask a bunch of questions, though. Try to understand what the article says. Ask specific questions when you're confused, etc.
#20
Quote by bangoodcharlote
How about Em C G D Em Am C B7? (This is considerably harder.)

Sorry for giving the answer away, but I've been trying to figure out how/when it sounds "good" to use a major dominant 7th chord. This is key of G major, correct? What allows you to use a B major 7, instead of using B minor 7, which seems more logical because Bm is in the key of Gmajor?
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#22
I think something just clicked it Would be E natural minor wouldnt it? if its a minor scale would the minor chords still be lower case as in ii or uppercase since its a minor scale

EDIT

just saw that^
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#23
It's not E natural minor, but don't concern yourself with minor keys quite yet. Read that lesson and understand the major scale. EVERYTHING builds from that.

Everything is written in relation to the parallel major scale, so when someone say that harmonic minor is 1 2 3 4 5 6 #7 (or worse when they write b3 and b6, yet still #7) they clearly don't know what they're talking about. If you don't know the harmonic minor, in short, it is a minor scale with a natural seventh: 1 2 b3 4 5 b6 7.
#24
Thanks for the help sue, also what was that second progression from i swear i've heard it somewhere
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#25
Quote by bangoodcharlote
How about Em C G D Em Am C B7? (This is considerably harder.)


Nice progression, it's very similar to the one in "Pigs - Three Different Ones" By Pink Floyd.

The key is E-Minor, It goes like this i - VI - III - VII - i - iv - VI - Vb7

It's fairly common practice in blues music to use a Dominant 7th chord on top of the minor scale. Especially if the 7 chord is a a primary chord.