#1
Hi all,

I have a USA Stratocaster with humbuckers, although the guitar is warmer than it usually would be, I'm thinking what I'm really longing for is a mahogany body guitar.

Can anyone suggest some decent warm, mahogany body guitars around the price range of a USA Strat?

Thanks
#4
Or you can just switch the pickup?
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#5
Quote by SuperJoop
USA les paul? simple.


USA Strat in the UK is about £600. I won't get that much for it when I sell it, probably about £500.

A Gibson Les Paul is like £1000 I thought?

I've tried changing pickups, but I think I just need that deep, rich tone that only comes from mahogany.
#6
Quote by SuperJoop
USA les paul? simple.


The ones in the range of an Am. Std. pricewise are crap.

Anyway, TS, Epiphone Sheraton or Dot? I've always found semihollows to be warm.
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#7
If you can find an epiphone Les paul or something used, those would be about perfect for you. Maybe you can get an Agile shipped in? Contact rondomusic.com
#9
NO. Les Paul Studios are ghastly unless you find a gem, and even then there is much better for the money. When I think about it, if you're fine with controlling the feedback, try an Epiphone Casino. I've always loved the warmth those things have.
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Quote by necrosis1193
NO. Les Paul Studios are ghastly unless you find a gem, and even then there is much better for the money. When I think about it, if you're fine with controlling the feedback, try an Epiphone Casino. I've always loved the warmth those things have.


I'll take your advice with ignoring the Les Paul Studio, but the Epiphone Casino is a hollow body, looks great but I'd like to stick with solid body.
#11
Hmm...1956 Epiphone reissue Les Paul Goldtop?
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Quote by necrosis1193
The ones in the range of an Am. Std. pricewise are crap.

Anyway, TS, Epiphone Sheraton or Dot? I've always found semihollows to be warm.


So are fenders at £600
#13
If you want warmth, just get a regular Epiphone Les Paul Standard and upgrade the pickups. That way you have a low-cost guitar with a solid mahogany body, a fixed bridge, and dual humbuckers, plus you have money left over for some high-quality pickups.

Later, upgrade the pots to some more responsive and dynamic ones, the stock ones aren't very good.

You don't need a Gibson. The only things that separate a Gibson from an Epiphone are the pickups and the pots. Also, the bridge has better quality, but the Epiphone's bridge is good too.
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#14
Quote by SuperJoop
So are fenders at £600


I do believe I've been over this. Completely damning a company just for feel is idiotic. Plenty of people prefer Fender feels over other brands. There are plenty of better metal guitars. Do you honestly think Iron maiden's guitarists would still use strat if they didn't like the feel?
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Quote by necrosis1193
I do believe I've been over this. Completely damning a company just for feel is idiotic. Plenty of people prefer Fender feels over other brands. There are plenty of better metal guitars. Do you honestly think Iron maiden's guitarists would still use strat if they didn't like the feel?


He has no ordinary strat though does he?

It is one off made by john cruz in a custom shop.

His sig model is just a factory produced guitar. Custom shop strats play 1,000 times better than Cheap ones. Maybe in the rare occasion it is different, but in general.
#16
Quote by SuperJoop
He has no ordinary strat though does he?

It is one off made by john cruz in a custom shop.

His sig model is just a factory produced guitar. Custom shop strats play 1,000 times better than Cheap ones. Maybe in the rare occasion it is different, but in general.


Actually, it's a 1957 strat modified for HSH. Plus Janick Gers I believe still uses regular strats of unconfirmed age. Plus Jeff Beck I do believe uses an off-the-shelf signature model onstage. As do many endorsees. I'm not saying you have to worship Fender, I'm just saying damning a good brand because you don't like it's feel is kind of naive. I don't like thin necks or EMG's/high-output pickups. I still recommend them to those who like them though, because I realize they work for some, though not me.

Also, as long as you have a Morello avvie, he uses a MIM Standard telecaster on occasion in addition to the "ARM THE HOMELESS" guitar.
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#17
Yeah, I mean I really do love the feel of my Strat. It's a pleasure to play. It has been modified to an HSH configuration but those meaty lower mids I have started to crave lately just arn't there. Loads of upper mids from the alder body. I'm pretty much trying to get the guitar to sound like something it shouldn't be, and really that's probably not the most wise thing to do.
#18
Quote by necrosis1193
Actually, it's a 1957 strat modified for HSH. Plus Janick Gers I believe still uses regular strats of unconfirmed age. Plus Jeff Beck I do believe uses an off-the-shelf signature model onstage. As do many endorsees. I'm not saying you have to worship Fender, I'm just saying damning a good brand because you don't like it's feel is kind of naive. I don't like thin necks or EMG's/high-output pickups. I still recommend them to those who like them though, because I realize they work for some, though not me.

Also, as long as you have a Morello avvie, he uses a MIM Standard telecaster on occasion in addition to the "ARM THE HOMELESS" guitar.


When did I slate their feel? Fenders feel amazing. But the custom shops are so much better.

The signature model discussion, I don't care what they use. But I know their gear is made and set up way better than factory exports.

Plus, I have jeff beck tickets! woooooooo
#19
Have you considered keeping the strat and saving up for or just outright buying another one? There may come a point down the road when you kick yourself for getting rid of it. Plus it's always good to have more guitars.
#20
You don't necessarily need a different wood for warmer tone. One of the big reasons Strats sound so bright is the length of the neck. Les Pauls generally have shorter necks, which makes them warmer. Try out a couple guitars instead of playing with theory all day, the difference should be instantly noticeable. I'm sure if you sell your Strat you'll find a Les Paul or SG priced similarly on craigslist, in fact, you could even find someone willing to trade.
#21
Quote by SuperJoop
When did I slate their feel? Fenders feel amazing. But the custom shops are so much better.

The signature model discussion, I don't care what they use. But I know their gear is made and set up way better than factory exports.

Plus, I have jeff beck tickets! woooooooo


I could've sworn you said something about in the past, my apologies. If I can ask then, why do you seem to hate Fenders except for Custom Shop? Of course Custom Shop is better, but it always is, with that logic, every brand sucks that has a Custom Shop.

Fair enough.

I am incredibly jealous. Would you mind, if it's allowed, bringing a camcorder and posting some vids on youtube?
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#22
If you love your strat, why not buy a mahagony strat? There's a really nice one in musiciansfriend.com
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#23
Quote by zeek7pc
If you love your strat, why not buy a mahagony strat? There's a really nice one in musiciansfriend.com


Think I'm just going to wait and be patient so I can raise the money for a PRS. Seems those instruments have just the kind of tone I'm after.
#24
i've done the journey from strat to les paul and all the way back again. you can get the warm sound from a strat, it's all a question of pickups and amp settings. i would never go back to a les paul, the tonal range is too narrow compared to a good quality strat.
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Quote by dr_john
i've done the journey from strat to les paul and all the way back again. you can get the warm sound from a strat, it's all a question of pickups and amp settings. i would never go back to a les paul, the tonal range is too narrow compared to a good quality strat.


Really what I'm lacking from the strat is lower mids. Plenty of high mids there, but I want those ballsy lower mids. Anyone got any ideas how I can got more of them in the mean time?

The PRS's seem to be more versatile then the Les Pauls, so think I'm just going to have to wait a year and save up. Probably go for something like a PRS Custom 22 or 24.
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Quote by XtAsY2007
The PRS's seem to be more versatile then the Les Pauls, so think I'm just going to have to wait a year and save up. Probably go for something like a PRS Custom 22 or 24.


PRS guitars are nice but play one first. If you desire a Les Paul sound, they don't quite sound like a Les Paul. If you just want more mids, they'll be good, though still try 'em first.
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#29
if you just want a warmer tone have you tried an ibanez tubescreamer? those sound heavenly with strats.
#30
Quote by XtAsY2007
Yeah, I mean I really do love the feel of my Strat. It's a pleasure to play. .



in that case, can you tell me what amp you're using now?
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#31
Quote by weezeman
Have you considered a USA mahogany HSS Strat?

I believe that those are exclusive to Musicians Friend and Guitar Center. They don't ship outside of the states.