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Holy **** guys. I just finished watching this movie "What the Bleep Do We Know?" All about Quantum Physics and states of conciousness. DUDES that was some heavy ****!!! They said that reality is projected from your minds at such a fast rate that it all looks clear and real. WTF MATES!! I don't really know if this is bull**** or not but its some deep theories! Anyone seen it? or even have opinions on Qu. Phys.?
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****!! man !! Thats ***********!!! awesome!!!! I'm so *******!! high!!1

no.. just no.

and also theres loads of theories on a lot of shit.. we'll find out one day..
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#8
DUDES? MATES? ****?? wow, sounds interesting. why don't you go figure out what quantum physics is, and come back later.
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#9
Wow. And after all that, you still don't know that it's spelled quantum with a U, not an A. Nice.
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#10
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they're all theories, i dont think any of them have been proved


You can't prove a scientific theory :O
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#11
actually i spelt it right the second time. Also its not my fault that they called it QuantUm Physics and led me to believe so. So don't flame me your intelligent people!
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You can't prove a scientific theory :O



because after that, it becomes a scientific FACT

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#17
Sounds similar to the Matrix except without all the cool stuff.
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#22
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they're all theories, i dont think any of them have been proved


well scientific theory has given us the atomic bomb, medicine, machines....

pretty much everything we've done so far has been done because of a theory, so i'd say they're pretty accurate.
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#23
I agree it's a pretty interesting movie and no doubt quantum mechanics has the potential for really crazy stuff. However you have to take a lot of it with a grain of salt, most if not all of the scientists that speak in it are not reputable at all. A lot of the stuff in it is pure BS.
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I agree it's a pretty interesting movie and no doubt quantum mechanics has the potential for really crazy stuff. However you have to take a lot of it with a grain of salt, most if not all of the scientists that speak in it are not reputable at all. A lot of the stuff in it is pure BS.



Yeah that Schroedinger and his wave equation as well as Eigen values, Hamiltionian operators, angular momentum, symmetry and our entire understand our the the atom itself should be taken with a grain of salt because it's all just theory.
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well scientific theory has given us the atomic bomb, medicine, machines....

pretty much everything we've done so far has been done because of a theory, so i'd say they're pretty accurate.



well that's what they said about god, too.

everything is considered proven until unproven, and most of science has only been proven on earth or near the earth. noone really KNOWS how anything works on a quantum level, but then again this thread really has nothing to do with quantam physics anyways
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That movie raped james bond for all he was worth.

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#27
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well that's what they said about god, too.


wat

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everything is considered proven until unproven, and most of science has only been proven on earth or near the earth.


Scientific method: has you ever herd of it?


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noone really KNOWS how anything works on a quantum level, but then again this thread really has nothing to do with quantam physics anyways



No, our understanding of mechanics on the sub atomic scale is pretty decent actually. We know how **** works at the quantum level. Without an adequate knowledge of that, your computer wouldn't work.
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Yeah that Schroedinger and his wave equation as well as Eigen values, Hamiltionian operators, angular momentum, symmetry and our entire understand our the the atom itself should be taken with a grain of salt because it's all just theory.


You know nothing of schroedinger and his wave equation.... You filthy chemist you

Oh god how I enjoy quantum chemistry xD
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#29
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Yeah that Schroedinger and his wave equation as well as Eigen values, Hamiltionian operators, angular momentum, symmetry and our entire understand our the the atom itself should be taken with a grain of salt because it's all just theory.


I didn't say anything about theories, gravity is a theory. Good theories can almost have more value than a fact because they can't be disproved even by instances that seem to be contrary.

The claims the movie makes are ridiculous, like that you can influence water molecules with your mind and that there is no need for antidepressants. The things you mentioned are all very valid, the movie uses pseudoscience to misinterpret their meanings.
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You know nothing of schroedinger and his wave equation.... You filthy chemist you

Oh god how I enjoy quantum chemistry xD



We're doing physical chemistry at the moment and I did physics for all of last year.

Get to bed you silly alchemist.

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I didn't say anything about theories, gravity is a theory. Good theories can almost have more value than a fact because they can't be disproved even by instances that seem to be contrary.




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#31
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Holy **** guys. I just finished watching this movie "What the Bleep Do We Know?" All about Quantum Physics and states of conciousness. DUDES that was some heavy ****!!! They said that reality is projected from your minds at such a fast rate that it all looks clear and real. WTF MATES!! I don't really know if this is bull**** or not but its some deep theories! Anyone seen it? or even have opinions on Qu. Phys.?
And what has that got to do with quantum mechanics? It's just people using big words they don't understand to confuse stupid people. Like YOU.

Now kindly set yourself on fire, jump into a grave and die.
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We're doing physical chemistry at the moment and I did physics for all of last year.

Get to bed you silly alchemist.


Alchemy ftw! I can turn water into wine

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And turn Lead into gold!

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#33
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Alchemy ftw! I can turn water into wine

*Takes jug of water... Puts under table.. Takes jug of wine from under table and puts on table*

And turn Lead into gold!

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I can see why people would fall for that actually.

I mean, you turned water into wine! What's to be sceptical about?
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#34
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wat


Scientific method: has you ever herd of it?


No, our understanding of mechanics on the sub atomic scale is pretty decent actually. We know how **** works at the quantum level. Without an adequate knowledge of that, your computer wouldn't work.



they said about god that he explained everything, as well, just like we say about science today.

the scientific method, where, as I believe, something is still considered proven until unproven, and no matter what you say, you can never be 100% sure that the same physical laws apply to all the matter in all the universe.

And no, our understanding of mechanics on the sub atomic level is still based around a lot of guess-work, and no matter how well some of it might be applicable in practice, most of it is still unproven.

EDIT: for instance, the theory of gravity, one of the most simple and basic laws of physics, has never been proven, because no one really knows EXACTLY what the hell it is, and there are many scientists who doubt the traditional explanation of gravity and who are working on dis-proving the whole thing.

there is a difference between maths and physics, maths are always correct, while physics never really are. that's because maths is the science that describes a system that is man-made, and thus easily follows the logic of man, while physics is the attempt to describe nature through man-made ways.
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#35
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well scientific theory has given us the atomic bomb, medicine, machines....

pretty much everything we've done so far has been done because of a theory, so i'd say they're pretty accurate.

o yeah im not saying i disagree
#36
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they said about god that he explained everything, as well, just like we say about science today.


In your owns words describe science.

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the scientific method, where, as I believe, something is still considered proven until unproven, and no matter what you say, you can never be 100% sure that the same physical laws apply to all the matter in all the universe.


Things are considered 'unproven' until 'proven', then they have to be 'disproved'.

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And no, our understanding of mechanics on the sub atomic level is still based around a lot of guess-work, and no matter how well some of it might be applicable in practice, most of it is still unproven.


No, it's really not. So much so that we have directly imaged both the wave and particle nature of electrons.


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EDIT: for instance, the theory of gravity, one of the most simple and basic laws of physics, has never been proven, because no one really knows EXACTLY what the hell it is, and there are many scientists who doubt the traditional explanation of gravity and who are working on dis-proving the whole thing.

there is a difference between maths and physics, maths are always correct, while physics never really are. that's because maths is the science that describes a system that is man-made, and thus easily follows the logic of man, while physics is the attempt to describe nature through man-made ways.



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#37
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Holy **** guys. I just finished reading this site "timecube.com" All about TRUTH. DUDES that was some heavy ****!!! They said that reality is TIME IS CUBIC HOW CAN YOU BELIEVE QUEER GOD. WTF MATES!! I don't really know if this is bull**** or not but its some deep theories! Anyone seen it? or even have opinions on DR. GENE RAY, WISEST AND MOST CUBIC HUMAN?

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#38
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DUDE! that's insane! we should like totally watch that **** now!

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#39
ahh the scientists have arrived jenkins. I say! to pull up my duffel chair for me, oh and fetch me a cup of tea. This may get entertaining!
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I want to punch you so bad right now.


Why? You don't agree that theories have value? A scientific law describes how an instance will occur given certain conditions, but a theory explains why something behaves a certain way. Thus am I not right to think that good theories can have an incredible amount of value because they can't be easily disproved by a single instance as a law can.
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