#1
Bloody Hell!...

Seriously, I have improved loads on the guitar etc..

But it is only when you (I) start recording potential final cuts as a solo etc... that you realize how much finesse is required...it is seriously perfectionist in my opinion.

I love record, but it is a royal pain in the a*s sometimes.....!!!!!!


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#2
perfectionism in the studio is something everyone strives for.
But a mistake here and there can just be ignored if the mood of the solo stays the same; just listen to Jimmy Page on Heartbreaker and Dazed and Confused.
Stevie Ray vaughn made mistakes on his recordings, too.
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#3
I agree. Every time I sit in a studio I realize how much I really suck.
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#4
Surely it should inspire you to truly perfect your technique then, every time i go for recording i find a particular aspect of my playing that doesnt sound good when applied to a recording, its just a good way to iron out the creases basically.
#5
im with you man.
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#6
I make my own recordings at home. I am a pretty decent guitar player, but when I actually sit and try to play a composition (in perfect time and with a click track) I just suck, really bad. Its disturbing how different playing from day to day, or even a show is in comparison to recording. Its basically a science.
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Look at it this way when you're complaining about being in the studio - You could always not be in the studio.
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#8
I agree with both of you entirely.

but the jimmy page and SRV are blues, and that has elements of free form and roughness.

I know eruption is a rough cut and there are 'mistakes' as eddie says. But I am looking for a clean cut studio solo.

Perfect bends and good vibrato and timing. It is so hard to get a 100% good take.
#9
I hate the OCD fits that recording induces in me,but when it's all said and done I have a list of practice goals that I get to work on so I guess it's all good.

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I make my own recordings at home. I am a pretty decent guitar player, but when I actually sit and try to play a composition (in perfect time and with a click track) I just suck, really bad. Its disturbing how different playing from day to day, or even a show is in comparison to recording. Its basically a science.


Yes, I have this feeling also.

I think I am getting a lot better and I can play a lot of styles and stuff.
I think my technique is good.

But then the studio seems to expose and intensify the imperfections
#11
I hear ya, man. recording solos in the studio really shows you where your limits are.
My band once recorded a song at normal tempo, but when it came to recording the solo we found out that I wasn't fast enough to play perfectly in time, which led to a 3 week pause in recording, during which I practiced my ass off to get fast enough to record perfectly.
#12
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Yes, I have this feeling also.

I think I am getting a lot better and I can play a lot of styles and stuff.
I think my technique is good.

But then the studio seems to expose and intensify the imperfections



I think a lot of it has to do with your mindset going in to the recording session.You know that this will be recorded and you want it to be as perfect as possible,so your mind and ear are tuned into the little inconsistencies and nuances of your playing a lot more then they would be at say practice or a gig.At least that's what always happens with me when I'm recording something.

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#13
I always record riff by riff, I used to do whole song takes and (being a perfectionist) would make a mistake towards the end and delete the whole take and start over
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#14
i find that generally if you haven't written it out beforehand, it's all in the first take.
even if it's not the perfect take, and you don't end up using it, it should offer up a few indications of the direction where you want to take things. I almost always hear a lick or two in my first take that i think are perfect and that i can use to determine the way i want that solo to sound.
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I always record riff by riff, I used to do whole song takes and (being a perfectionist) would make a mistake towards the end and delete the whole take and start over

That's what I do. To me, if I can't play a song front to back, I shouldn't be playing it at all. Especially live.
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That's what I do. To me, if I can't play a song front to back, I shouldn't be playing it at all. Especially live.

I have the same sort of mentality but most of the songs I write are pretty long and technical so it's easier to do a few riffs at a time instead of several 7-minutes takes
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I have the same sort of mentality but most of the songs I write are pretty long and technical so it's easier to do a few riffs at a time instead of several 7-minutes takes

In the end it comes out to the same amount of work - whether you piece it together in small pieces and learn it all front to back afterwards, or learn it front to back first then record it as a whole - work is = in the end.

Just preference IMO.
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#18
I've also found I play too... by the book in recording. I have to remind myself to actually feel the music and play with passion. I get too concerned with playing right I forget to really PLAY my guitar.
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#19
You can either be a perfectionist or you can use pro-tools.
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#20
I hate the studio aswell, I can play all my stuff perfectly live but for some reason when I record, I end up dropping a note or stuffing up a run halfway through.

I always play from start to finish aswell, no piecing it together so I use alot of my time but it's so satisfying in the end.