#1
Quote by shakin'cakes
First of all, I enjoy deathcore for it's complexity and it's the only genre heavy enough for me



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#4
I need to get Deadguy's discography. Also, I would recommend anyone not familiar with Hewhocorrupts to listen to the song they made with pro-tabs (or whatever), it's funny.
#5
Quote by boyan89
I don't get it...


this forum is currently flooded with awful metalcore bands so i'm adding some good bands to the mix.
Quote by shakin'cakes
First of all, I enjoy deathcore for it's complexity and it's the only genre heavy enough for me



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I want an amp good for playing hippie tunes. I want it to be an actual amp, not a tube amp.
#8
this thread is not going well haha. none of those bands are even hardcore. closest is probably deadguy
Quote by shakin'cakes
First of all, I enjoy deathcore for it's complexity and it's the only genre heavy enough for me



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I want an amp good for playing hippie tunes. I want it to be an actual amp, not a tube amp.
#12
i listen to very little metalcore (including integrity) but that's definitely not what i'm here to talk about
#15
Quote by cakeschmammert
i'm wasting too much time on a forum that is 90% metalcore.
SEGREGATION!


I wonder if there's any way that we could possibly get a "metalcore" forum created. I doubt most of the people running this website know there's a difference between hardcore and all this modern garbage, nor do they care, but it would be nice. Or perhaps we can just do what the metal forum does and force all of them to take their topics to a different forum.
#16
Or perhaps we could all just discuss the bands we want to discuss in their respective threads and not be asshole elitists.
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#17
Quote by GodofCheesecake
Or perhaps we could all just discuss the bands we want to discuss in their respective threads and not be asshole elitists.

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#18
there was nothing asshole about that comment at all.
he's right. there needs to be a nu-metalcore forum.
it's almost a completely different type of music.
#19
That comment wasn't entirely directed at him. And I agree that it would make a lot of sense to separate hardcore and metalcore. The the fact of the matter is that this is the hardcore forum, and by UG's standards metalcore and deathcore count as hardcore, so this is the only place people who enjoy that music can discuss it. Just because people who like hardcore generally don't like those genres, in fact, what is it they refer to it as? Oh yes...
Quote by JxD
modern garbage

doesn't mean that their opinion matters any more than mine. I don't like old-school hardcore. I don't like it at all. That doesn't mean I go in a bunch of hardcore threads and call the bands horrible and old-fashioned garbage. People in this forum always complain how elitist the metal forum is, and then they make threads with titles like this one. We get it. You don't like metalcore, a lot of us don't like hardcore. We don't have to constantly point that out.
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My progressive rock project, Mosaic

Quote by Lappo
clearly, the goal is to convert every thread into a discussion about BTBAM

BTBAM IS ALWAYS RELEVANT
#20
Quote by cakeschmammert
there was nothing asshole about that comment at all.
he's right. there needs to be a nu-metalcore forum.
it's almost a completely different type of music.

its really depend. Stuff like All that remains,Unearth , BFMV are more metal then hardcore. But stuff like IKTPK, Stick to your guns still have some hardcore element.

Lets just kick the stuff whitout breakdown out.

why ? Because its seriously breakdowns that make the difference btw hardcore and metal
There's No School like Old School.

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#21
All That Remains and Unearth both have breakdowns. I don't know about BFMV because I don't listen to them. I DO know that the metal forum would NEVER accept a BFMV thread. Either way, it's useless to speculate about a forum that may or may not ever exist.
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My progressive rock project, Mosaic

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clearly, the goal is to convert every thread into a discussion about BTBAM

BTBAM IS ALWAYS RELEVANT
#22
Why not make a forum about Metal whit hardcore influence but not really /sarcasm
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#23
Do you spell "with" like that on purpose? Just wondering, thought it was an accident the first few times.
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My progressive rock project, Mosaic

Quote by Lappo
clearly, the goal is to convert every thread into a discussion about BTBAM

BTBAM IS ALWAYS RELEVANT
#24
Quote by Hcmanu
why ? Because its seriously breakdowns that make the difference btw hardcore and metal

completely srs?
#25
Quote by GodofCheesecake
Do you spell "with" like that on purpose? Just wondering, thought it was an accident the first few times.

Im just a frenchie who dont know **** about english Ill try to fix that.

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completely srs?



Well they are breakdown in metal. But you know those ' hardcore breakdown '
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#26
Quote by Hcmanu
Im just a frenchie who dont know **** about english Ill try to fix that.


Oh, ok, that's cool. It just bothered me because I read it phonetically in my head so it always sounded like someone pronouncing the word wrong haha
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My progressive rock project, Mosaic

Quote by Lappo
clearly, the goal is to convert every thread into a discussion about BTBAM

BTBAM IS ALWAYS RELEVANT
#27
GodofCheeseCake, your posts have been so unbelievably ****ing stupid that I don't know where to start. First of all, I'm an elitist asshole because people like you are cluttering up the hardcore forum with bull****. A thread, such as "Enough with awful metalcore" is made, and then you come into it and argue about metalcore. This why I suggest we need a seperate forum for nu-metalcore and deathcore.

There is hardly anything hardcore about nu-metalcore or deathcore, thus it shouldn't be incorporated/allowed into this forum. Breakdowns and pig squeals don't make a hardcore band. Just because UG has decided to lump the genres together doesn't mean it has to stay that way.
#28
I never SAID it had to stay that way. In fact I AGREED with you that there should be separate forums. The entire point of my post was that we DON'T have separate forums so it's stupid that arrogant assholes like you act as if those of us that enjoy metalcore and deathcore only do it to annoy you. You think I'd RATHER be here, putting up with you, than in a forum where I could talk about bands I like without constantly having people drop in to inform me that that band is scene "bull****"?

No, you're the stupid one. Either that or you're deliberately misinterpreting my posts because you like arguing.
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clearly, the goal is to convert every thread into a discussion about BTBAM

BTBAM IS ALWAYS RELEVANT
Last edited by GodofCheesecake at Mar 5, 2009,
#29
Evidently you would rather be in here arguing with me, being that you responded. I have yet to go into another thread telling people the music they listen to sucks (with the exception of going into the Atreyu thread when I first signed up for this forum and explaining how bad Atreyu is); I do it when deathcore/nu-metalcore fans stray into threads I frequent. I didn't misinterpret your posts, I just picked and choose what I wanted to address.
#31
Fair enough; I'm glad that you're not one of the people that does that, and as I said, that first post wasn't entirely directed at you. I didn't intend for this to become an argument. I just was in an agitated mood and I'm tired of threads with titles like this, because it's not like anyone who listens to 'awful metalcore' is trying to get in the hardcore people's way or whatever. They just want to discuss bands they like with other fans.

So, basically, I listen to music I like and you listen to music you like and we're all happy.
My band, Escher
My progressive rock project, Mosaic

Quote by Lappo
clearly, the goal is to convert every thread into a discussion about BTBAM

BTBAM IS ALWAYS RELEVANT
#33
abandon ship, meet at the b9 boards
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#34
Quote by JxD
I wonder if there's any way that we could possibly get a "metalcore" forum created. I doubt most of the people running this website know there's a difference between hardcore and all this modern garbage, nor do they care, but it would be nice. Or perhaps we can just do what the metal forum does and force all of them to take their topics to a different forum.

I think it would be better for hardcore, but then no one would come to the hardcore forum.
#36
metalcore had some decent bands when it first came out, but what it transitioned into (what we know metalcore as today) has just become scene mallcore garbage. If you look back at the beggining of metalcore, bands like ETID, The Dillinger Escape Plan, Converge, Botch, etc. I'm almost certain that most of you probably liked these bands at point or another. It was cool when it all came out. But now we have bands like Bring Me The Horizon and the Devil Wears Prada and Atreyu that just make the whole genre seem really gay. I feel bad for the like 5-10 metalcore bands that are actually good and have to play with ****ty bands, and get ragged on for their genre just because their are so many bands that just made it really lame and wear girl jeans and purple bandanas with flatbrims and stupid stuff like that. It's kind of funny how all the different forms of hardcore are very segregated these days, in my area their are Hardcore kids, Metal kids, Nu-Metal kids, most of the Metalcore kids have now all become Hardcore which in my eyes is pretty cool. Metalcore definately has some good bands, its just that majority of them really suck.
#37
yeah its really not cool to generalise and say "ok enough awful metalcore" although you have the right to have your say, it will just spur meaningless debates that will never end. some things are already known without having to say them.
#38
Quote by recklessnick
yeah its really not cool to generalise and say "ok enough awful metalcore" although you have the right to have your say, it will just spur meaningless debates that will never end. some things are already known without having to say them.


well said