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My guitar teacher was trying to convince me to buy 100 watts tube, which Im thinking is really unessecary. Basically I'm buying an ac30 on craigslist($700) and he was trying to talk me out of it because he's convinced that 30 watts won't be loud enough and used amps are too unreliable
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#3
Wrong and wrong. It's a vox tube amp, so as long as a visual inspection and play test confirms everything is alright, reliability shouldn't be an issue. And AC30s are damned loud. You'll blow drummers out, probably.
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#4
one word to your teacher.

BULL****.

your right hes wrong.

anything above 30 watts tube is unecessary if you ask me.

unless you really play cleans alot, your know, then yah buy a 100 watter.

even then a 50 watt provides enough cleans for me.
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#6
I think 50watt tubes is as loud as necesary. for everyone....
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I think 50watt tubes is as loud as necesary. for everyone....

Nah. 100 watts is good for Metal (preamp gain much?) and absurd clean headroom. Although it's a bit unnecessary for the latter.
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#9
Gosh...so many pro players use AC30s in large live situations. Miked up, they can play in front of thousands.
#10
Yeah idk what it is about Vox ac30's, but they do seem a good bit louder than many other 30 watt tube amps. Go for that one. Make sure the guy on craigs list you're buying from isnt holding out on the foot pedal! You'll deffinitely make good use of it.
#11
The ac30's'll make it over most drummers. I'm not sure what type of tone you're going for, the AC30 might break up before you want it to. Try it out, see the type of volumes you can get with it. I know my AC30 (an older 6 input type) with the brilliant and normal channel patched can get pretty loud without breaking up (enough to get over most drummers), but I'm not 100% sure that the new AC30cc2's can get that type of clean volume.
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#12
It will definetly be loud enough. The most possible issue is the tube breakup which might occur at a lower volume than you might want it to.

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#13
the 30 watt vox AC30 is louder than balls.

which probably isn't a good example of anything.. but .. BALLS.

it should be good enough to get over most drummers up to a solid hard rock style.
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Gosh...so many pro players use AC30s in large live situations. Miked up, they can play in front of thousands.

Yeah thats because it is, as you say, mic'd up. But you could mic a 1Watt amp and get the same.

I'm guessing, and I think everybody else is, that the TS means unmic'd.

And to the TS, yeah you're right and he's wrong.
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Beatles played Shea Stadium with AC30's unmiked. Nuff said?
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The real question is, can your drummer keep up with an AC30?


True that.
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Beatles played Shea Stadium with AC30's unmiked. Nuff said?


The Beatles didn't have much of a drummer to keep up with.
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Beatles played Shea Stadium with AC30's unmiked. Nuff said?
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Haha, so true.

As for the amp... I am pretty sure that a 30 watt tube will be plenty for what you will need to be playing unless you're playing some pretty big venue...
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#22
I've got one, I mix the normal and the boost channel and have normal volume at 1/4 and boost at almost nothing and then have the master volume at 1/4. Those are my practice settings anyway, for small to medium sized venues I just turn the master up to about half, usually a bit less and it still cuts through easily.
#23
AC30's are loud enough to play STADIUMS.
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AC30's are loud enough to play STADIUMS.
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#26
Ask Brian May, Dave Grohl and the Edge. They all have used AC30s at some point playing the biggest arenas in the world.
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#27
1) Your teacher knows ****e about gear. I have an AC15 and it keeps up with drummers just fine.

2) Fortunately, guitar teachers don't have to know about gear to teach well. I remember having a teacher who criticized the hell out of my flamenco guitar (Esteve, hand made in Spain) while he played a Takamine "classical" which had a truss-rod, cutaway and electronics. He thought mine should have all those things and it was junk because it didn't. He was a great teacher though, just dumb about gear.

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The real question is, can your drummer keep up with an AC30?


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Ask Brian May, Dave Grohl and the Edge. They all have used AC30s at some point playing the biggest arenas in the world.


Brian May has only ever used AC30s! Of course when he plays stadiums he has 14 of them...

But the point still stands, AC30s are fricking loud!
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Brian May has only ever used AC30s! Of course when he plays stadiums he has 14 of them...

But the point still stands, AC30s are fricking loud!

#31
i propose a law to ban all guitar teachers, henceforth, from opening their mouths about guitar gear. They might know how to play guitar, but judging by all the threads made on here, they know fuck all about gear.
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i propose a law to ban all guitar teachers, henceforth, from opening their mouths about guitar gear. They might know how to play guitar, but judging by all the threads made on here, they know fuck all about gear.

that's a little hitler-esque. My old bass teacher was my go-to guy for tech info. Differant people have had differant experience with the same gear, who's to say this guy couldn't get a good clean out'a his AC30 to get over an abnormally loud drummer?
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#33
i was only joking.

but there does seem to be an alarmingly large number of threads around here where a guitar teacher gave a pupil pretty suspect info regarding gear...
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#34
Your drummer would need to be John Bonham for you to not stay clean over him with an AC30.

Seriously, cut the mids on them and you will stay clean until your ears hurt.
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#36
it will definitely be loud enough to get over a drummer, just beware it might not be clean thats all.
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Your drummer would need to be John Bonham for you to not stay clean over him with an AC30.

Seriously, cut the mids on them and you will stay clean until your ears hurt.

what mids? They don't have a mid control. You've got treble and bass on the brilliant channel and a treble cut on the rest of the channels....
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#38
My Egnater 20 watt can keep up with my drummer, and he's a crazy f*cking Neil peart disciple, only he can't play quiet. so your AC30 should have no problémo.
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what mids? They don't have a mid control. You've got treble and bass on the brilliant channel and a treble cut on the rest of the channels....


Some people use EQ pedals.

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i propose a law to ban all guitar teachers, henceforth, from opening their mouths about guitar gear. They might know how to play guitar, but judging by all the threads made on here, they know fuck all about gear.


Eh, not always. My guitar teacher plays a PRS Custom/Fender American Deluxe Tele through a Fender Twin Reverb, with several different boutique effects and a couple home made. He always gives me advice about gear.
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