#1
Well, I was thinking it over, and well this seems extremely simple. Okay, well what I was thinking is have everything people absolutely need given to them, such as low end housing, water, food that isn't luxury, stuff like that. Then have luxury items you have to work and pay for, I realize this would be socialist, but this seems the most logical way to go about economy, it solves the no incentive to do anything problem of communism, and the terrible result of failure of capitalism.
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#3
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terrible result of failure of capitalism.


Que?

Seriously, your idea is neither revolutionary nor new. It is actually being implemented in numerous countries.

On topic, imo socialism/communism only works on a smaller scale
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Que?

Seriously, your idea is neither revolutionary nor new. It is actually being implemented in numerous countries.

On topic, imo socialism/communism only works on a smaller scale


I didn't claim it to be revolutionary or new?
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#8
tell me one country that hasnt been in some type of civil war in atleast a hundred years over socialist ideas in which the ending was a working socialistic system.


america isnt the richest country in the world in the shortest amount of time because of socialism
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tell me one country that hasnt been in some type of civil war in atleast a hundred years over socialist ideas in which the ending was a working socialistic system.


america isnt the richest country in the world in the shortest amount of time because of socialism



Actually, we're not the richest country in the world, or in the shortest amount of time.

So...good job.

All aboard the fail boat.
#11
Well, sounds like a good idea. Won't work in reality.
No way to grow enough food. Besides, most people wouldn't bother with expensive stuff if they could get food, housing, etc. for free, thereby shutting down the economy. No, it doesn't work.
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#12
I'm glad you're seeing how corrupt capitalism is. But then again, so is socialism. The problem is, while i totally can't stand these greedy companies and millionaires making more money, I also can't stand seeing people on medicaid and then dishing out 300 dollars for viagra. Thats giving the finger to taxpayers. I guess like everything there needs to be balance. I really hope things get better with the economy, but politics by very nature destroys progress.
#13
Socialism has failed time and time again. Capitalism has succeeded time and time again. Why does this debate even exist? Stupid butthurt poor people.
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#14
It will never happen. Period. Going against giant corporations, that run the government. It would put too many people under.
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#15
i think this belongs in the politics thread.
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#16
Oh and in addition... social values went down the drain. People buy things they cant afford, and base their success on money and im sick of it. I cant tell you how many of my friends dropped out of college because their parents couldnt afford it after buying the new 40 grand suv. So people in general fail as much as the government.
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Socialism has failed time and time again. Capitalism has succeeded time and time again. Why does this debate even exist? Stupid butthurt poor people.



Examples?
#18
No, It's the richest country in the world because it stumbled into an enormous previously unknown continent and essentially annexed it.

That neglects all the wheeling and dealing its' politicians have done to take advantage of every available opportunity.

I love America, but it's not remotely fair to say that it's such a succesful country due to JUST capitalism
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Oh and in addition... social values went down the drain. People buy things they cant afford, and base their success on money and im sick of it. I cant tell you how many of my friends dropped out of college because their parents couldnt afford it after buying the new 40 grand suv. So people in general fail as much as the government.



THIS!

People need to stop buying things they can't afford.
#20
Socialism has failed in the past and therefore will fail in the future. The only economic/political system that has worked for an extended period of time with minimal social unrest and minimal economic distress periods has been the capitalist/democratic republic system.

People need to stop having a giant **** over this economic recession period were in. It is no big deal. This happened in 1929, it happened in 1907, and several times throughout the 1800's. Get over it. We will begin our turn around when people stop looking for radical change in policy. Obama's socialist spending plans have only worsened our economic state by taking control of failed banks trying to keep them afloat and therefore destroying the stock traders confidence in the private banking sector for the future. The best thing the United States government could do, and the worlds for that matter, is just sit back and let the system sort its self out.


Third of all. I dont know where the hell President Obama is getting this idea that socializing the medical system will help our economic state. Now he is just taking advantage of a weakened resolve in congress and the public to push a personal believe onto a financially stressed country. Canada has been under socialized medical for the past 10 or more years (canadians could confirm this) and their system is worse than ours. People bitch about 4 hour waits at hospital now, under a socialized system that will jump to 14. California has a semi socialized system and now the state is facing bankruptcy over a 15 billion dollar debt.

Again, socialism will not solve any of our problems. Just go out and spend your money wisely, but do not get in debt. That will help more than saving and then bitching about everything else. Self determination combined with a well regulated private buisness and banking sector will in the end be much better than a socialized one.
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#21
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No, It's the richest country in the world because it stumbled into an enormous previously unknown continent and essentially annexed it.

That neglects all the wheeling and dealing its' politicians have done to take advantage of every available opportunity.

I love America, but it's not remotely fair to say that it's such a succesful country due to JUST capitalism



America is not the richest country in the world. I live here, I love it, but we're not the richest.
#22
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Socialism has failed time and time again. Capitalism has succeeded time and time again. Why does this debate even exist? Stupid butthurt poor people.


...of course the 'conservative youth of america' person would be in denial like that.

can you say propaganda and nationalism?
#23
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...of course the 'conservative youth of america' person would be in denial like that.

can you say propaganda and nationalism?



You gotta love it man.

Brainwashing for the win.
#24
i'm pretty happy to just stop this one and say 'politics thread'
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