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ok, so today while i was wandring around killing time, i found this fender 12 string acoustic in someones garbage. it was missing all machine heads, bridge pins, and the thin white peice of the bridge, can think of the name. also, this guitar has several large cracks in the body, and thats what im worried about. my plan is to not try and make this mint, but rather settle with playable. i was thinking either use wood filler and then sand it down and paint it, or cover the thing w/ duct tape, and then paint it. i know that both of these ideas will terribly diminish the tone, but i think its my only choice. so, if you have recomendations or advice on how i could actually get these holes and cracks fixed proffesionally please do so, or tell me what you think i could do with the paint and whatnot....
thanks

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thats not all of them, but their the worst imo, so if i can fix those, i should be ok w/ the others
Last edited by gratefulduck at Mar 8, 2009,
#2
i wouldn't bother painting it, you found the thing. just get it as playable as you can and let it look like a real beater
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#3
It'll cost more to do it right than it would cost to buy a new acoustic.

Not only that, but Fender acoustics really aren't worth the trouble.
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#4
I don't know, it's fairly straight forward, check out Stewmac and Frets.com to get some ideas on the reapirs, buy those cheap 6x6 tuners that are like $10 a pop, bridge pins and a saddle, use super glue in the cracks... and as long as the bridge plate and bridge are intact, you should be able to get it playable for around $50-100 dollars. Resetting the bridge, if it needs to be reset, it pretty straight forward, too. You could always reinforce the bridge plate if it's too chewed up and if the cracks are missing wood and are large gaps, you could always cut wood to fit the cracks, glue it in, sand it down and lacquer over them. I mean, it's doable, it's just going to take time. In the end, it'll pay off, though... maybe not in tone, but pride.
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Last edited by Thomme at Mar 7, 2009,
#5
if the cracks arent bad, you could probably glue to some thin peices underneath, might hold
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if the cracks arent bad, you could probably glue to some thin peices underneath, might hold

ooh, I wouldn't suggest putting pieces of wood UNDERNEATH the soundboard, as that will prevent it from vibrating as freely as if you used wedges in the cracks. You want the soundboard (top) to vibrate as freely as possible and anything glued to the bottom or top or mounted on it with prevent that. Depending on wear the cracks are, they may not even effect the tone or structure of the guitar.

TS. If you post pics, we can give you a better idea of what the repairs will entail.
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#8
Yea, I second the post pictures comment. It really depends on the nature of the damage. A good quality wood glue should do a better job on the cracks as long as you can get some in there and put pressure on the repair until it sets up. What ever you use apply it sparingly and try to stay away from materials that will absorb vibration. (tape/paint)
#9
Nice find.
I'd leave just like you found it
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i hear you man
#11
Epoxy Resin would be better than superglue for retaining tone. Same stuff Ovation backs are made of, pretty much. The hardware is easy enough so providing the neck is not totally shot, you should have an okay banger.
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#15
And me...

Well, technically I did. My friend found a vintage bass in a crackhead's trash can and bought it from him for 10 bucks and gave it to me while drunk. I still have it.
#16
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And me...

Well, technically I did. My friend found a vintage bass in a crackhead's trash can and bought it from him for 10 bucks and gave it to me while drunk. I still have it.

Bought it from him? So he could just go buy more crack? I would've just stolen it from the trash.
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i wanna find a guitar in the trash...
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i wanna find a guitar in the trash...

I wanna find a guitar not in the trash, like my room maybe. So it's not covered in banana peels and used cat litter.
#20
^

wow. my room just got cleaned, so i know how u feel..
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^

wow. my room just got cleaned, so i know how u feel..

I'm cleaning mine. Lost my damn checkbook. The only thing I'm actually sure of being where I left it is my three guitars. And my amp, because it weigh's 1,000 lbs.
#22
i bet it does weigh that much, my friend has one and literally nearly broke his back moving it...
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i bet it does weigh that much, my friend has one and literally nearly broke his back moving it...

I know right?! I'm gonna have to start working out again just so I can vacuum under it.
#24
thats why i do prefer stacks over combos...divide the weight in about half, cause now u have two pieces that can be moved seperately.

but come on, they coudlve thrown wheels on it....
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oh, i believe i see what ur getting at jim... i think i broke my own rule here.... dammit, tonight is full of fail for me!
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#28
you shouldnt. its hard to explain.
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#30
or ever, technically, since if he doesnt know, he doesnt need to.
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#33
pics now!!!
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And me...

Well, technically I did. My friend found a vintage bass in a crackhead's trash can and bought it from him for 10 bucks and gave it to me while drunk. I still have it.


thats really quite the story..... Mind telling me how to make a signature so this can be a part of it?
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thats really quite the story..... Mind telling me how to make a signature so this can be a part of it?

Go to "control panel" at the top of the forums. Select "Edit Signature" on the left.

Paste in the quote.
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Go to Control Panel (top of page), click Edit Signature (sidebar) and enter:


[quote="Invader Jim"]And me...

Well, technically I did. My friend found a vintage bass in a crackhead's trash can and bought it from him for 10 bucks and gave it to me while drunk. I still have it. [/QUOTE]


Simple as that.

edit: woah, that turned out wrong...

Just click Quote under that post and paste that into the field.
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There can only be one dumpster king round these parts, mate...


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#40
HUMIDIFY IT!!! see if you can make the cracks come back together, then squeeze some wood glue into the cracks.


cheap easy way to humidify it = put some DAMP (not wet) sponges in sandwich bags and cut some holes into the bag, place those in the sound hole and keep it in a closet if possible..
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