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#1
some douche friends i have at school say that a7x isnt metal there hard rock and there all posers. yes i know my friends r retarded. but tell me what u think so i can shove it there faces. im a HUGE a7x fan, i have all there albums and dvd's.
#2
A7X are not metal, they show no characteristics of being a metal band other than stealing riffs and solos from metal bands.

Answered your question?
#3
Originally metalcore, a subgenre of hardcore punk fused with metal. Now they're progressive-tinged hard-rock.


So, no, never have been, and aren't.
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cuz ppl hate how power metal they are cuz they think its "gay" or w.e, which is immature and dirogitory
#4
Agreed with UncleCthulhu.
I don't really see how they are metal. They're more punk/ska in my eyes.
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was metalcore, now metal, never hard-rock


I disagree, their recent material sounds further from being metal than their older material so to say they are now metal is ridiculous.
#10
They were metal before, not sure what to call them now. Only reason people say they arent metal is because theyre slightly popular and anything with even a slight bit of popularity isnt "true metal".
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They were metal before, not sure what to call them now. Only reason people say they arent metal is because theyre slightly popular and anything with even a slight bit of popularity isnt "true metal".


No, they aren't metal because they don't sound like metal.

Just because they use distorted guitars doesn't mean they automatically become metal.
#13
was metal-core for their first 2 albums then added more of a thrashy tinge on city of evil and now are progessive hard-rock so to answer the question they were now they aren't
(btw i'm a huge fan too)
#14
Yes, progressive hard rock is definitely a proper description of their music, even though they lack 90% of progressive rock's defining features.
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#15
Your friends are silly for calling them poseurs, they're quite openly 'mainstream rock'. It's not like they pretend to be metal.
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#16
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Your friends are silly for calling them poseurs, they're quite openly 'mainstream rock'. It's not like they pretend to be metal.


It says they're metal on their Myspace
#17
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Your friends are silly for calling them poseurs, they're quite openly 'mainstream rock'. It's not like they pretend to be metal.


They used to.

And, Slarti, I should have said modern progressive hard rock. They use a more modern progressive style. Like Muse, Radiohead, or Three.
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cuz ppl hate how power metal they are cuz they think its "gay" or w.e, which is immature and dirogitory
#18
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No, they aren't metal because they don't sound like metal.

Just because they use distorted guitars doesn't mean they automatically become metal.

They sounded like 90% of other metal bands, so yea, id say thats metal.
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#19
i cant even think of what to say to all of u people that say there not metal!! if your a fan this isnt oin to you (at least your a fan) but all u other fags. wtf.
#20
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It says they're metal on their Myspace


Yeah, but does Guns 'N' Roses.
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#21
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They sounded like 90% of other metal bands, so yea, id say thats metal.


They sounded like Motorhead? Vader? Incantation? Blasphemy? Gorgoroth? The Axis of Perdition? Fornost? Sonata Arctica? Immortal? Judas Priest? Judas Iscariot? Elvenking? Maiden? Crimson Glory? Hellhammer? Mordor? Strapping Young Lad? Carcass? Napalm Death? Nile? Megadeth? Master's Hammer? 666Satanic Army666? Slave Whipping Blasphemy? My Dying Bride? Electric Wizard? Dream theater? Death? Glam Angel 666?

Yep, thought so.
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cuz ppl hate how power metal they are cuz they think its "gay" or w.e, which is immature and dirogitory
#22
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They sounded like 90% of other metal bands, so yea, id say thats metal.



no they don't, unless by 90% of other metal bands you mean the radio rock bands

btw, have you ever listened to metal? name some metal bands
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They sounded like Motorhead? Vader? Incantation? Blasphemy? Gorgoroth? The Axis of Perdition? Fornost? Sonata Arctica? Immortal? Judas Priest? Judas Iscariot? Elvenking? Maiden? Crimson Glory? Hellhammer? Mordor? Strapping Young Lad? Carcass? Napalm Death? Nile? Megadeth? Master's Hammer? 666Satanic Army666? Slave Whipping Blasphemy? My Dying Bride? Electric Wizard? Dream theater? Death? Glam Angel 666?

Yep, thought so.

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cuz ppl hate how power metal they are cuz they think its "gay" or w.e, which is immature and dirogitory
#25
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i cant even think of what to say to all of u people that say there not metal!! if your a fan this isnt oin to you (at least your a fan) but all u other fags. wtf.



this is a METAL forum, we don't call just anything vaguely similar metal, try going onto the jazz forum and talking about how slash is you favorite jazz guitarist, you might find a similar reaction
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They sounded like Motorhead? Vader? Incantation? Blasphemy? Gorgoroth? The Axis of Perdition? Fornost? Sonata Arctica? Immortal? Judas Priest? Judas Iscariot? Elvenking? Maiden? Crimson Glory? Hellhammer? Mordor? Strapping Young Lad? Carcass? Napalm Death? Nile? Megadeth? Master's Hammer? 666Satanic Army666? Slave Whipping Blasphemy? My Dying Bride? Electric Wizard? Dream theater? Death? Glam Angel 666?

Yep, thought so.

Way to name every band Im not refering to.

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no they don't, unless by 90% of other metal bands you mean the radio rock bands

btw, have you ever listened to metal? name some metal bands

Shadows fall, All that remains, Children of bodom, In flames, Metallica, Cannible Corpse, Between the buried and me, Black dahlia Murder, etc.
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And, Slarti, I should have said modern progressive hard rock. They use a more modern progressive style. Like Muse, Radiohead, or Three.

That's hardly progressive, though. It's called alternative rock, and they don't fit that bill either.

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By order:

No, yes, yes, no, yes, no, no, yes, no, no, no, no, yes, no, yes, no, no, only in their latest album, no, yes, yes, yes, no, yes, no, yes, yes, slightly more gay but yes, and who?
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1. Way to name every band Im not refering to.

2. Shadows fall, All that remains, Children of bodom, In flames, Metallica, Cannible Corpse, Between the buried and me, Black dahlia Murder, etc.


1. Whoosh, right? That just went over your head....right??

2. 6 of those aren't metal, two were metal, only one is straight metal.
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cuz ppl hate how power metal they are cuz they think its "gay" or w.e, which is immature and dirogitory
#29
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1. Whoosh, right? That just went over your head....right??

2. 6 of those aren't metal, two were metal, only one is straight metal.

Care to enlighten me then? I was under the impression that they were all metal
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#30
Enlightenment:

Shadows Fall (while good) are metalcore with thrash spurts and attempts.
Children of Bodom (at least now) are metalcore with some power influences.
All That Remains are whiny metalcore.
In Flames were melodic death metal and are now whiny metalcore.
Metallica were thrash, and are now mediocre hard-rock.
Cannibal Corpse are death metal.
TBDM is straight up metalcore with some death influences and very bad vocals.

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cuz ppl hate how power metal they are cuz they think its "gay" or w.e, which is immature and dirogitory
#31
cob, in flames arn't metalcore.

metalcore is influenced by them...that doesn't make them metalcore.

edit: and i think ur confusing ****tyness with being metalcore.

In flames' new stuff is crappy...but theres no -core elements at all.
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#32
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Enlightenment:

Shadows Fall (while good) are metalcore with thrash spurts and attempts.
Children of Bodom (at least now) are metalcore with some power influences.
All That Remains are whiny metalcore.
In Flames were melodic death metal and are now whiny metalcore.
Metallica were thrash, and are now mediocre hard-rock.
Cannibal Corpse are death metal.
TBDM is straight up metalcore with some death influences and very bad vocals.


Some songs maybe, but I dont see how theyre core
How is bodom core? Last I checked, they sounded nothing like it
All that remains is more metal than hardcore
Again, sound nothing like core
Metallica I was mostly referring to black album and before
TBDM again, sound nothing like metalcore.
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#33
All That Remains aren't metalcore in your eyes? Neither is TBDM? Nor Bodom?

Whatever, I don't care enough to continue. Enjoy being genre illiterate if you think ATR isn't metalcore.

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cuz ppl hate how power metal they are cuz they think its "gay" or w.e, which is immature and dirogitory
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All That Remains aren't metalcore in your eyes? Neither is TBDM? Nor Bodom?

Whatever, I don't care enough to continue. Enjoy being genre illiterate if you think ATR isn't metalcore.


Never said that. Bodom and TBDM sound nothing like core. Again, feel free to enlighten me rather than just call me stupid and leave.
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#35
Were metalcore, are now hard rock with bits of metal here and there. So it's not stupid to call them metal or hard rock.

But they don't go in this forum.
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#36
Slay....

To be fair, Bodom is metal. They just blow.

To Threadstarter and Ktool:

You asked the metal forum's opinion on if they're metal or not. Overwhelmingly, the opinion is that they're not on grounds that they don't sound like metal bands.

What more do you want? Go listen to Blasphemy or Incantation or Helloween or Fates Warning or Atheist and come back and tell us they're metal.
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Quote by Ktool The Girth
Way to name every band Im not refering to.


Shadows fall, All that remains, Children of bodom, In flames, Metallica, Cannible Corpse, Between the buried and me, Black dahlia Murder, etc.

you are a moron

seriously.
Edit: i agree with slay
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#38
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Slay....

To be fair, Bodom is metal. They just blow.

To Threadstarter and Ktool:

You asked the metal forum's opinion on if they're metal or not. Overwhelmingly, the opinion is that they're not on grounds that they don't sound like metal bands.

What more do you want? Go listen to Blasphemy or Incantation or Helloween or Fates Warning or Atheist and come back and tell us they're metal.

So anything that doesnt sound like those bands isnt metal?
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#39
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So anything that doesnt sound like those bands isnt metal?


Woosh.
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#40
apparently it's too complicated for ts and ktool.
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