#1
Just as the topic suggests this is something I am wondering. I am more into covering music than making my own right now and I was wondering which one of these pedals would be more able to cover music.

Pretty much are more songs played with an envelope filter or a wah pedal?

Also while we are at it could you guys tell me if these are as good as they look?

Crybaby Bass Wah 105Q Pedal
http://www.jimdunlop.com/index.php?page=products/pip&id=272&pmh=products/p_and_e_detail

MXR Bass Auto Q
http://www.jimdunlop.com/index.php?page=products/pip&id=256
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#2
I'd say a wah. Tons of songs are played with a wah. A wah is cool. A wah is good. Wah wah wah.
#5
I actually use my envelope filter a lot more than my wah. The mere fact that it's easier to use translates into it getting a lot more use.

If you're covering music ver batem, then you might listen to the guys above, but if you're trying to put your own touch on it, you can add envelope filter to sections of a lot of songs with great success while wah might be a little less usable.
#6
A wah is more controllable, and is good for adding a bit of variation, while an envelope filter is better if you want that juicy, liquid funk sound.
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The MXR Auto-Q is fantastic for creating really funky sounds, as it has an osscilator and an envelope filter, and you can blend in the dry signal. However, they're not desperately practical. On a record, or in a gig, you'd use it maybe once, unless you featured it as part of your normal tone in say a funk band.

Wah-wahs however have much more use in soloing or bridge-type sections. Think Tim Commerford of RATM on Bulls On Parade, or indeed Tom Morello on the same song. Unfortunately, I use a Morley Dual Bass Wah, which has an Envelope Filter in it rather than the Dunlop. I would however recommend it as a cool wah, even if the filter isnt exceptional.

But the Auto-Q is great fun. I would upload some soundbites, but alas, Im in India, away from my basses.
#9
thanks for the tip
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The MXR Auto-Q is fantastic for creating really funky sounds, as it has an osscilator and an envelope filter, and you can blend in the dry signal. However, they're not desperately practical. On a record, or in a gig, you'd use it maybe once, unless you featured it as part of your normal tone in say a funk band.

Wah-wahs however have much more use in soloing or bridge-type sections. Think Tim Commerford of RATM on Bulls On Parade, or indeed Tom Morello on the same song. Unfortunately, I use a Morley Dual Bass Wah, which has an Envelope Filter in it rather than the Dunlop. I would however recommend it as a cool wah, even if the filter isnt exceptional.

But the Auto-Q is great fun. I would upload some soundbites, but alas, Im in India, away from my basses.


So you would recommend the Auto-Q for an envelope filter? Just wondering because I was looking into purchasing one, but I'm fairly new with effects, so I'm not really sure what's good or bad. If there are other envelope filters that you think I should look into, please let me know. Thanks
#11
Wah is more useful. With an envelope filter you'll often say I wish I had a wah.
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#12
Wah is more useful. With an envelope filter you'll often say I wish I had a wah.
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#13
I like Wahs because you can control where the Peak is in your playing. And also there's something about the tone of a 1/4's tilted Wah pedal that I love in Intro and Solo sections.

With an envelope filter you sort of always get a wah sound throughout your playing, of course you can control the intensity of the Peak through your attack. It isn't the same.
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Wah is more useful. With an envelope filter you'll often say I wish I had a wah.


Actually, I find envelope filter much easier to use. As I generally concentrate on my playing, I find my dynamics are easier to control than my foot. Depends on the tone you are looking for though.
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#15
A wah pedal is essentially a pedal-modulated tone knob. The depth, frequency, and speed at which you sweep across the tonal range is controlled by your foot, which is easy enough to master.

An envelope filter is sometimes called an auto-wah because once you set those attributes the stomp box requires no further input—it sweeps according to your selected settings the same way every time. Adjusting those settings is typically simple, as long as you're in between songs.

Unless you're willing to fiddle with those settings during a performance, you're committed to the same settings in every tune. You'll find the biggest drawback to be the creeping influence your selected sweep frequency can exert on your tempo. Because of this you'll end up using the envelope filter less often than you would a wah pedal, even though the stomp box is far easier to use.

You don't want the wah effect in every song anyway, but you can use a wah pedal as you would a volume pedal--select the level you want and leave it there. I wouldn't say my envelope filter is useless by comparison—it makes a great battery donor.
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