#2
hardcore is good
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hardcore is good

really
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#6
metalcore has metal influences.
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#9
hardcore is hardcore
metalcore is hardcore + Metal elements

and to viper62084 i have to dissagree I much prefer metalcore when its done right than any of the modern hardcore music
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#12
Hardcore is usually punkier, and Metalcore is usually either really annoying scene kid wannabe's or really, really dynamic metal music with hardcore overtones.
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To quote myself (don't feel like reiterating) in a thread posing the exact same question:

"I think two different kinds of "metalcore" are being spoken of here. The first was spawned out of the late 80's hardcore scene and sounds like heavy hardcore. If there is a God, 90's metalcore is its gift to humanity. CD sales say nothing about this type of music because it's fairly underground and it doesn't get coverage through popular outlets (MTV, radio, television, etc.); thus it doesn't sell. This genre is where you find bands like Botch, Integrity, Groundwork, Unbroken, Strife, (very) early Earth Crisis, etc.

The other type is the more recent incarnation. You have your Trivium's and your Avenged Sevenfold's; the music is more heavy metal than it is hardcore (one might say that it isn't hardcore at all) and it is widely marketed. The tours seem to draw huge crowds and the music has been fairly successful. Die hard metal and hardcore fans both seem to reject it as a bastardization of the two genres, scorning its success and its fans. Perhaps I'm not the best judge of this music, due to my utmost contempt for it, it just seems that the bands don't really have any ground left to explore in the genre. Nobody is reinventing the style, merely beating it to death with hundreds of bands simultaneously releasing the exact same album."

And to quote Matt Fox of Shai Hulud:

"Taking the term literally, and breaking it apart, yes, we definitely are a true example of “metalcore,” a hybrid of hardcore and metal. When we used to joke with the term, it was just a clever (or not so clever) way of describing a metallic hardcore, metal-influenced hardcore, or hardcore-influenced metal band. My friends and I would listen to Deadguy and say “this isn’t HARDcore, it’s METALcore,” which made sense based on the music they played, combined with the attitude and ethic of the band. Same thing used to be said for Earth Crisis, Integrity, Coalesce, Unbroken, and a lot of the 90’s bands that incorporated heavier riffs and more progressive structuring and ideas into their songs. When the term “metalcore” was thrown around back then it was very tongue-in-cheek; this, obviously, long before it became a legitimate genre, it’s current legitimacy being highly debatable, of course.

“Metalcore,” the actual genre in 2008 doesn’t usually seem like a hybrid of hardcore and metal as much as it just seems like metal, only written by people who imitate it rather than love it, typically resulting in trite and shallow music. If this accurately describes “metalcore” then we clearly do not embrace the term. Conversely, if Earth Crisis and Deadguy define “metalcore, ” count us in."
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#14
Quote by viper62084
this is false, there both metalcore

hardcore is more punk influenced

hardcore is short for hardcore punk, so you're right with that second comment

here's metalcore(good metalcore, hard to find)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCvJVbt1MxQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KyYtPb30Wg


here's hardcore(not a fan, but this is the best i could get)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7AD0heCkvU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8dEB1CVahw
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hardcore is short for hardcore punk, so you're right with that second comment

here's metalcore(good metalcore, hard to find)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCvJVbt1MxQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KyYtPb30Wg


here's hardcore(not a fan, but this is the best i could get)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7AD0heCkvU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8dEB1CVahw


Don't listen to this man! Bad hardcore, bad metalcore! Also, don't refer to wikipedia, it's very wrong.
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Don't listen to this man! Bad hardcore, bad metalcore! Also, don't refer to wikipedia, it's very wrong.

Dude, himsa and zao are the best metalcore there is. Shortly after them is becoming the archetype and august burns red.

and the hardcore, well, i agree it is bad.
Edit: oh yeah, i didn't get them from wikipedia. Wiki sucks
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Dude, himsa and zao are the best metalcore there is. Shortly after them is becoming the archetype and august burns red.

and the hardcore, well, i agree it is bad.
Edit: oh yeah, i didn't get them from wikipedia. Wiki sucks


Old Zao and rev era Himsa are okay (can't say the same for August Burns Red). I'd say Himsa is a lot more of a metal band but their singers old band Undertow can be passed off as metalcore. Kudos for not using wikipedia.
#22
i thought summon in thunder was himsa's best, but to each their own.
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#23
JxD's post is the most valid. Use it.
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