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Yngwi3
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So I thought I'd make the official Diezel Amplification thread *and yes, I just divided by 0 and merged two memes together.
The Official Thread of Diezel Amplification

The Diezel Mafia Group

To join just join the group and add "Member of the Diezel Mafia" to your signature - I'll add moderators at some point - I'll ask you if you'd fancy it first and take it from there

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Diezel's history (lifted from Diezel's website):

* It started like so many other boutique companies: Peter Diezel, playing in one of Munich's rockbands in the 80s, wasn't too satisfied with his Marshalls, modded them and after a while more and more players contacted him to get his mods.

* At that time he was famous for tweaking amps on stage during gigs . . . But the limitations of the "Marshall-platform" were too frustrating not to try a new concept: midi-switchable, four channel amp. Luckily Peter D. met Peter Stapfer, a pro-musician with a strong sales/marketing background, who was ready to build up a company of its own:

Diezel Amplification

* The company was still located in Munich. Peter D. was manufacturing and Peter S. the head of sales. The first amp, which is still on the market (a bit tweaked over the decade) was launched in 1994 - the milestone VH4. Of course Munich's music scene was more than keen to get them. But the success was limited to germany and austria - and the legend says that one single VH4 made it to a studio in LA - the beginning of a new area for Diezel Amplification. More and more big acts (like Metallica, Guns & Roses) started to record with the VH4 and so the US fell in love with the Diezel trademark sound.

* Late in the 90s the music scene changed - hard/heavy rock was on its way down and the amp market was asking for a more modern concept. Peter D. then started to work on a new sonic monster, still with all the common Diezel-features like midi, switchable loops. He finished the prototypes in 2001 and got more than enthusiastic feedbacks from his customers during NAMM/Frankfurt Music Fairs.

* 2002 the new model called "Herbert" (named after Peter Diezel`s father) was introduced. The amp was more powerful than the VH4, with similar features, but an innovative new concept: a mid-cut section, which made "evil" sounds with the flick of a switch accessable in an amp, which could also do all the classical guitar amp sounds.

* In 2003 the lab/factory was moved from Munich to Bad Steben, located in the north-east of Bavaria and Peter's home town, where he is working and living now. The company still is based on a family & friends level.

Source: http://diezel.typo3.inpublica.de/history.8.0.html

Products:
Herbert,


VH4,


Einstein.

(Also see my profile or NAD Thread )

Products to keep an eye out for:
Schmidt: Introduced at NAMM '09: 30 Watt Class A with either 6550, KT88, EL34 or 6L6 valves. Alternatively: 15 Watt Class A with 6V6 valves,


Lucy: Diezel's first all valve bass amp - no info to be released as yet.


Yng's personal analysis on the Stein: "Sounds like a hot-rodded Marshall with a shit tonne of gain and low end. Love it"

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There are currently just five retailers currently in the UK. These are:

London:
Diezel's home base in the UK (of course). Guy there is called James - excellent guy to talk to, really helpful and knowledgeable about any questions or issues you may have.

Oxford:
The Oxford Guitar Gallery limited
9 South Parade,
Summertown, Oxford OX2 7JL

Cornwall:
Modern Music
21 Kenwyn Street,
Truro, Cornwall TR1 3BU

Manchester:
Sounds Great Music
182 Wilmslow Road
Heald Green, Cheshire SK8 3BG

Glasgow:
Merchant City Music
7 Garth Street,
Glasgow G1 1UT
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I've been chatting with James however, and he's told me that the UK's 6th retailer is to be opened in a fortnight in Colchester (Which is only about half an hour of where I live yay!)
The place is called 'The Bass Merchant' - It's currently just a bass guitar and gear shop, but the electric guitar section is to be opened and they're going to stock Diezel

The Bass Merchant
Unit D1 Colchester Seedbed Centre,
Wyncolls Road, Severalls Ind.Est,
Colchester, Essex CO4 9HT

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Thread intended to talk about everything and anything Diezel. I'll start (if Randy is about) - Did you try or hear the Schmidt, if yes, what was it like?!? I'm really keen to hear this thing.

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Useful links:
Diezel's official site: http://diezel.typo3.inpublica.de/
UK Diezel website: www.diezel.co.uk

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I find it funny that the amps are made in Munich, but the group is called the 'mafia,' which is definitely Italian.
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wait a minute where's X-to-the-Z Xzibit? thats the only reason I came to this damn thread
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I find it funny that the amps are made in Munich, but the group is called the 'mafia,' which is definitely Italian.

Yeah, the Mafia originated i believe in 19th Century Sicily but I thought I'd make it interesting as opposed to 'The Diezel Owners Group' or something boring - I doubt that everyone in the Laney cult has segregated themselves from all other forms of amplification
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Yeah, the Mafia originated i believe in 19th Century Sicily but I thought I'd make it interesting as opposed to 'The Diezel Owners Group' or something boring - I doubt that everyone in the Laney cult has segregated themselves from all other forms of amplification

You have to remember this isn't The Pit - There's a point to this thread

Well, perhaps they have segregated themselves from all amps but Laney.


Not bad amps, though.
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This is a terribly thinly veiled excuse to show off your Diezel, don't lie.
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I used to have an Einstein, can I joinz?
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This is a terribly thinly veiled excuse to show off your Diezel, don't lie.

Likely - but I applaud him for his delivery. Plus if there is no other "Everything Diezel" thread for it and the mods are okay with it, it's got a place.
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This is a terribly thinly veiled excuse to show off your Diezel, don't lie.

Hah, no. Already done that and got the compliments for the purchase in my NAD thread - I just didn't see a Diezel thread or group, and I thought "Hell, Laney and Orange owners have one... Why not?

Go on then Matrix
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I know that once you own a Diezel, you get attacked with a handgun. I think I'll pass.


/jk

Lovely amps, really, though they aren't for me I figure. I'm looking forward to trying the Schmidt though, might be the next amp on my GAS-list. I hope it's a little simpler than the other amps Diezel makes and that it'll be cheaper because of that.
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I don't have a job, so i fukin haet deizel
WONGA!
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I heard about that bass merchant expanding in Severalls business park. Looking forward to trying some of these amps out.
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LOOOOOL

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LOOOOOL


I can't believe I missed that!
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I'm going to get a Diezel eventually

<_<


>_>
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Either those or Spiders, Cubes, Voxes or Laneys. Oh with a good dash of 6505/5150s too
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Put it all into a bowl and stir with a whisk. Place in the oven for 30 minutes at 200°C. Tastes like BLUARGH.
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The Valveking sounds good with a speaker swap!

/repeated slogan

Seriously, the VK gets way too much hate/rape on these boards. I still use mine at gigs and stuff A/Bd with my Rocker. Good tone, honestly.

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Anyway, on topic: If I were to get a Diezel (and its a big if at the moment condsidering my financial situation) which one should I get? I play funk metal with my band, and I'd like something to compliment my Rocker.

Also something compact(ish) if such a model exists. Maybe a short head of some kind? Cab not an issue.
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Anyway, on topic: If I were to get a Diezel (and its a big if at the moment condsidering my financial situation) which one should I get? I play funk metal with my band, and I'd like something to compliment my Rocker.

Also something compact(ish) if such a model exists. Maybe a short head of some kind? Cab not an issue.

Hmm... funk metal ey? That's a new one. Well, I've not played the Herbert or VH4 yet (hoping that The Bass Merchant will have some in for their opening to try them) but from what I gather, the VH4 can be preety versatile due to the amount of channels and the completely seperate EQs for each one - but the 'stage 2' of the Stein is pretty... idk how to word it, it's got a fair bit of gain on tap but it's not as brutally voiced as channel 2 or mode 3 on channel 1 so I suppose that's a contender too.

Not sure about the Schmidt though - maybe that's one to wait for and check out as that 'looks' like a lower gain amp (to me anyway) yeah it's a horrible way of guesstimating but hell to it, and the head looks quite short.
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The VH4 I tried had a very... 'cutting' clean sound. It was somewhat like Fender or Hiwatt but a little bland if compared to one of them directly. But, it had incredible attack and definition, which helps for funk I guess.
So the VH4 might qualify.
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I'd probably go with the Einstein for "funk metal," eventhough I have no idea what that means

The VH4 just isn't my thing, imo the Soldano Avenger I played next to one sounded better The Herbert is a different story though...
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Cool, I hope they get a Schmidt/Einstein in for me to try. The Herbert and VH4 look like awesome amps, and were I the kind of guy that needed awesome versatility then I'd probably be drooling over one, but TBH I'm looking for a two channel or even one channel amp here. I barely use 'clean' cleans, even the cleaner stuff I play is usually slightly dirty.

EDIT: You know, whenever I tell people the genre I play I get confusion...

We're doing some recording in the next couple of weeks, I'll post some clips in the WTLT Thread or something...I must clear up the obscurity of this genre! The way I describe it is imagine a heavier, older RHCP with some chugga chugga. Maybe that helps
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Haha sweet sounds awesome.
Yeah I think the Stein would be a safe bet for your whacky genre of 'funk metal'
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Should be getting a VH4 sometime this year. I've got like 2000 and just keep hitting set backs for the last 200 odd I need
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Peavey XXX.

Best amp ever.

IMO. (that was my disclaimer)
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Peavey XXX.

Best amp ever.

IMO. (that was my disclaimer)

...wut?

I guess you're not counting boutique stuff?
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I'd probably go with the Einstein for "funk metal," eventhough I have no idea what that means

i think of old Incubus as funk metal, like the stuf from Fungus Amongus or Science, but that's just me. really really really good funk metal too
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i think of old Incubus as funk metal, like the stuf from Fungus Amongus or Science, but that's just me. really really really good funk metal too

Soooo... kinda like Primus except less stupid?

Definitely the Einstein then.
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20 bucks says Matrix has an amp hitlist in his house

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Soooo... kinda like Primus except less stupid?

yeah, kinda. check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIBD7L73I4Q

sorta nu-metal-ish too...but better you have to listen to the whole thing though, there's a sick breakdown right around 2:15 or so

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Rumor has it Adam Jones brought over that vh-4 to LA...
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I will have that Einstein/Herbert/VH4 in a couple of years
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Does anyone know the pricing of the Schmidt 15W head? I don't think it could possibly be over $2000... right?
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Does anyone know the pricing of the Schmidt 15W head? I don't think it could possibly be over $2000... right?

I would seriously doubt if it was that cheap.

I have no idea though, I've never even seen or heard of anyone that has one
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