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About time.
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#3
Okay, I don't mean to sound rude, but were you born diabetic, or really lazy/fat and became diabetic?

If it's the first one, Sorry too hear that, and I hope this all works out.
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Thank god for that.

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Okay, I don't mean to sound rude, but were you born diabetic, or really lazy/fat and became diabetic?

If it's the first one, Sorry too hear that, and I hope this all works out.


I'm pretty sure you can become diabetic without being fat or lazy.
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Okay, I don't mean to sound rude, but were you born diabetic, or really lazy/fat and became diabetic?

If it's the first one, Sorry too hear that, and I hope this all works out.


That's a bit of a dick statement. Diabetes happens to the non lazy and non fat as well, too.
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That's a bit of a dick statement. Diabetes happens to the non lazy and non fat as well, too.


Never heard of it happening to a fit person before.

I've only ever heard of obese/large people getting it because they eat very poorly.
If I am wrong though, sorry.

Oh and This is great news
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Okay, I don't mean to sound rude, but were you born diabetic, or really lazy/fat and became diabetic?

If it's the first one, Sorry too hear that, and I hope this all works out.


Neither. My dad was diabetic, and when I was about 6, I had a really rough week (sick) and my dad realised the symptoms. I got rushed to the hospital and a day later I was diagnosed. You could say the latter of your statement, but without the lazy/fat part.
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Never heard of it happening to a fit person before.

I've only ever heard of obese/large people getting it because they eat very poorly.
If I am wrong though, sorry.

Oh and This is great news

Being overweight is a pretty large risk factor in type-2 diabetes.
Type-1, on the other hand, is not related to your fitness.
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Never heard of it happening to a fit person before.

I've only ever heard of obese/large people getting it because they eat very poorly.
If I am wrong though, sorry.

Oh and This is great news


Diabetes is a quite complicated process where the body destroys it's own insulin-producing beta-cells. Poor diet and stress are two factors increasing your chances of getting diabetes, but so is ethnicity and gender. So describing people who has diabetes as "lazy and fat" is like describing someone with cancer as "bad at not having cells mutate".
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#15
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About time.


OH MY GOD!!!

Kensai actually said a serious answer!
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Neither. My dad was diabetic, and when I was about 6, I had a really rough week (sick) and my dad realised the symptoms. I got rushed to the hospital and a day later I was diagnosed. You could say the latter of your statement, but without the lazy/fat part.


I'm really sorry, didn't know that happened.

Knew what diabetes was, just didn't realize things like that occurred.
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If Canada follows, I might not have diabetes in a couple of years!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090309/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_stem_cells


Discuss!

Probably a few decades, to be honest..

And stem cell research has always been going on in the US; it's just been funded by the private sector up until now. Still, I'm sure this addition of government money will speed up the process.
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Never heard of it happening to a fit person before.

I've only ever heard of obese/large people getting it because they eat very poorly.
If I am wrong though, sorry.

Oh and This is great news



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OH MY GOD!!!

Kensai actually said a serious answer!


I don't know. The past two days, I've seen him be REALLY serious. Probably just being old bastard.

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Never heard of it happening to a fit person before.

I've only ever heard of obese/large people getting it because they eat very poorly.
If I am wrong though, sorry.


You are wrong. A family friend contracted Type II diabetes mellitus as a consequence of his Cushing's Syndrome. There's loads of factors, and a good diet may not necessarily prevent contracting diabetes.
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Yes. I'm all for stem cell research.

Next up, human cloning.


Yay for having no idea about Stem Cell Research =). If that comment was sarcastic, of course.

Really though, it's about time.
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#23
Embryonic stem cells aren't actually important anymore. They've found a cheaper and easier way to produce them.

Without going into extreme detail, they can manipulate any cells (they usually use skin cells) to revert to pluripotent stem cells by using only 4 chemical signals.

In a roundabout way Bush actually helped stem cell research by restricting embryonic research.
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I'm really sorry, didn't know that happened.

Knew what diabetes was, just didn't realize things like that occurred.



S'fine. I realize some people don't understand the disease as much as others do.

But yeah! This is good! New pancreas cells on their way by FedEx from the U.S .
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Embryonic stem cells aren't actually important anymore. They've found a cheaper and easier way to produce them.

Without going into extreme detail, they can manipulate any cells (they usually use skin cells) to revert to pluripotent stem cells by using only 4 chemical signals.

In a roundabout way Bush actually helped stem cell research by restricting embryonic research.


Not fully validated yet, and it will take years of following the lines to make sure that they are as maleable and healthy as embreonic stem cells.

They've been doing that for years using viruses as part of the de-diferentiation process (I guess you could call it), now there's supposedly a way to do it without viruses. Again though, not validated properly.

No Bush didn't help, they would have developed the exact same thing in the exact same amount of time even if full public funding of embreonic cells would have been taking place.
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#28
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Embryonic stem cells aren't actually important anymore. They've found a cheaper and easier way to produce them.

Without going into extreme detail, they can manipulate any cells (they usually use skin cells) to revert to pluripotent stem cells by using only 4 chemical signals.

In a roundabout way Bush actually helped stem cell research by restricting embryonic research.

Actually, if I recall correctly, the majority of stem cell research has been done outside the US, by foreign scientists and American scientists driven to other countries by the ban.
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personally, i do not support obama's lifting of the ban. however, i'm not against stem cell research. i simply lean to be more pro-life, and do not find that EMBRYONIC stem cells are the way to go. i was under the impression it was proven that other stem cells are just as effective.

EDIT: i don't feel that bush made the right decisions with the ban, and i don't feel that obama made the right decision lifting the entire ban.
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#30
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Yay for having no idea about Stem Cell Research =). If that comment was sarcastic, of course.

Really though, it's about time.

Yay for you being an idiot!

I wasn't relating human cloning to stem cells. I was just talking about human cloning in general.
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Yay.
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personally, i do not support obama's lifting of the ban. however, i'm not against stem cell research. i simply lean to be more pro-life, and do not find that EMBRYONIC stem cells are the way to go. i was under the impression it was proven that other stem cells are just as effective.

Not yet. Some time in the future they will be, though.
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Yay for you being an idiot!

I wasn't relating human cloning to stem cells. I was just talking about human cloning in general.


What were you trying to say about human cloning?
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#34
of course Canada will follow. America owns us, we are its little bitch. where have you been man? lol oh and thats good about you being cured in a few years
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Okay, I don't mean to sound rude, but were you born diabetic, or really lazy/fat and became diabetic?

If it's the first one, Sorry too hear that, and I hope this all works out.



I really hate it when people don't know anything about diabetes. Type two diabetes (lazy/fat/alcohol-related/drug-related/other medical condition related) is usually only found in older people. People aged up to about 25/30 will almost certainly have type one, rather than type two. Although people are getting type two younger, because they're so unhealthy, it's still relatively unusual for young people to have it, unless there's another medical problem causing it.

I hate that the distinction isn't made on television, too. I don't like being cast as "fat and lazy" just because I have diabetes. I've had it since I was 2 years old, I have type one, not type two, it's because my parents had faulty genes.

I know there's some promising stuff being done with stem cells, I really hope they figure something out before I'm too old for them to bother curing
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Yay.
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+1

I know I'm either going to die from cancer, or Alzheimer's, because both my grandparents and great-grandparents on my mothers side have.
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of course Canada will follow. America owns us, we are its little bitch. where have you been man? lol oh and thats good about you being cured in a few years


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What were you trying to say about human cloning?

That research on human cloning is due to commence.
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Yay.
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*crosses fingers too*
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