#1
I started to doubt about how bad line 6 spiders really are(i have the crappy 15 watt spider 3(first amp)) I didn't think the tone was to bad until i just cranked it for the first time 10 mins ago. It sounded horrible it sounded like someone just strumming open strings really harshly on clean and it just sounded like noise on the distortion keep in mind this is channel and master on 5. It sounds fine on anything below 3 but past that it sounds like crap. I now realize how badly i need a new amp.(i going to start giging this summer)

Now i need amp suggestions from you guys. I also am going to want a new guitar and my total bugget is 1200 max so that is about 600 for each. I play mostly rock and metal, but the cleans need to sound pretty not amazing but good.

Sorry about the long post but decided to kill two post with one click.
Last edited by jags482 at Mar 11, 2009,
#2
Line 6 Spiders are fine as practice amps, which is what you have. But yes, it won't sound great cranked up.

What guitar do you have now? I would suggest focusing more of your budget on a new amp for the time being. I would also suggest looking at used gear. However, the B-52 AT60 might work for you as well as the new 6505+ 112 combo that is coming out soon for $550.

What is your closest major city and do you gig/jam with a drummer?
#4
wall of text!

If you split it up a bit I might actually read it
05' G&L S-500
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96' Yamaha APX 6-A

Peavey Classic 30
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#5
Quote by Lefty Guitarist
Spend 800 on the amp and 400 on the guitar.

agreed.
snag a mesa f-50 on ebay, and ibanez rgt42dx's go for 400 new on MF. they're pretty solid guitars. If you're looking for a chunkier sound, maybe a used les paul?
#6
1200 what? Dollars? American? Austrailian? Pounds? Euros?

but yeah b-52's are mentioned alot, i'm looking into a bugera 333xl myself, i'd say check them out.
#7
what type of band? what music?


and any 15W SS amp is going to mud up when cranked, tbh.


with the guitar, what type of bridge do you like? can you be bothered with a floyd?
do you hate/love them? want a fixed bridge?

and skip spaces in your posts.
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#8
Personally, if it were me and I knew that would play guitar till my dying day, I would buy a guitar that is like every penny you own plus some. The reason is simple, you want something you will love, craftsmanship is dead on, and it freakin just sounds good and plays even better.

Then buy an amp of equal quality and don't skimp on cost. I can't count how much stuff I bought because it was cheap just to have it, then later buy the top of the line because the budget stuff don't cut it. Buy good, high end stuff and don't look at cheap stuff, that is if you're going to play everyday and not just doodle.
#9
OK right now i have an epiphone special 2 and im in metro detroit MI and to be honest i don't really like ibanez and i cant get anything off ebay.(mom doesnt like it) Im 16 now so i can pretty much drive anywhere under 30 min away. thank you for the quick replies
ed i do jam with a drummer and 2 other guitarest and am going to start giging this summer when i have time
and it is american dollars
Last edited by jags482 at Mar 11, 2009,
#10
what type of music? i personally would go 450ish for the guitar, and 750ish for a nice tube amp (around 30-50 watts) depending on the size of gig you're going to be playing.
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#11
The music my band plays is classic rock and some modern, but we also play a bit of clean stuff so clean must be decent and venue size is from coffee shops to school auditoriums
#12
Amp= Randall RG50TC sounds like exactly what you want. Can do almost anything between blues and uber-br00tal metal on its own.
Or if you're able to buy off Craigslist,
http://detroit.craigslist.org/msg/1062376083.html See if you can haggle this down, or just take it if you can because it's damn good, and the modules do actually make a difference.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/msg/1067806703.html You'll need an OD pedal for this, but for the price you could afford an OCD easy.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/msg/1065535737.html Don't be turned off just because it says Line6 and Spider, the Valve spiders are pretty good.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/msg/1051340978.html Get this, then save for a cab. It's ideal for what you want.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/msg/1049719155.html Something else that's perfect for you, although I'm not too knowledgable on the Nomad series (ask MatrixClaw).
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#13
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wall of text!

If you split it up a bit I might actually read it


its like..two pararaphs.
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#14
Quote by jags482
The music my band plays is classic rock and some modern, but we also play a bit of clean stuff so clean must be decent and venue size is from coffee shops to school auditoriums


If it were me, I'd go with an Epiphone G-400 and find either a Peavey Classic 30, a Fender Hot Rod + overdrive pedal, or even a used Vox AC30 if you can find it.
#15
As you look at those, I found some more.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/msg/1044873761.html Basically a larger version of the other Nomad I posted.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/msg/1028823999.html Once again, if you can stomach saving for a cab, go for this. The Vettas are some of the best amps out there.

And with whatever you have left over after the amp, use for a guitar. If it's not enough, save some.
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#16
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Amp= Randall RG50TC sounds like exactly what you want. Can do almost anything between blues and uber-br00tal metal on its own.
Or if you're able to buy off Craigslist,
http://detroit.craigslist.org/msg/1062376083.html See if you can haggle this down, or just take it if you can because it's damn good, and the modules do actually make a difference.


http://detroit.craigslist.org/msg/1051340978.html Get this, then save for a cab. It's ideal for what you want.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/msg/1049719155.html Something else that's perfect for you, although I'm not too knowledgable on the Nomad series (ask MatrixClaw).


This is what I mean. Buy the good stuff, you will regret the cheaper stuff later.
#18
Thanks for all the replies and i am definetly going to try out a mesa nomad this weekend and also 300 watts for the vetta i think that may be overkill, but i think i may go to guitar center and a few local music shops to try out those amps and other too.
And how is the orange rocker 30 because some guy has one for 900 and ive heard good things.
#19
The Rocker 30 is a great amp. If you're playing very high gain metal you may need an OD and it probably isn't clean enough for jazz, but everything in between it does brilliantly. I love it's overdrive sound myself...so thick and creamy.
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#20
Depends what sort of metal/rock you play. If you play anything heavier than thrash (i,e early metallica, slayer, megadeth) then the Rocker 30 isn't really for you.
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