#1
Well....

I assume most people know Dubai and some may know the Palm - visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Jumeirah if you don't.

Do you believe that the positive effects [eg. increased tourism, increased income, world's global awarenes of Dubai] outweighs the negative effects of the Palm? [eg. environmental factors, habitats destroyed, culture dillution]

This won't take long, even a simple yes or no will do, but if you could, please give some reasoning.

Thanks a lot.
#3
lol. The thing is, i posted this in hopes of reply because for Coursework assignments you get marks for performing primary research and presenting and including information using different methods.
#4
There is no right answer. It just depends on what you care about. It does have its benefits. And the negatives don't really affect a lot of people, so not many people care. From a practical standpoint, I guess the positive effects do outweigh the negative effects. But from a moral/ethical standpoint, it's a little harder to say.
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lol. The thing is, i posted this in hopes of reply because for Coursework assignments you get marks for performing primary research and presenting and including information using different methods.


Kind of an odd question to ask on UG, but here goes.

I think that the positive effects do outweigh the negative effects, as by increasing world awareness of the U.A.E. and looking to other sources of income other than oil, the United Arab Emirates is able to expand into a future where it will have other sources of income, other than just relying on its natural oil reserves.
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#6
Yes, because ti really isn't that bad in the long run. Cities like Dubai need the tourist indistry to thrive while the price of crude oil stays low, or else they will implode economically

totally worth it.
#7
Thanks a lot. Really appreciate the detailed replies.

I was just trying to find out opinions from people outside the country rather than the right or wrong answer. [thanks jetfuel]

yeahh, it is quite odd for UG lol. but the last two replies were great =] very helpful. [thanks xeronbrigs]

unfortunately quite true, this country relies too much on resources such as oil I believe, though they are diversifying atm. [thanks hipotato]
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#8
that question is a bit too vague to answer and its hard to weigh the positives and the negatives plus it will take decades to tell if it was worth it after all, with the current real estate market in Dubai.
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Quote by FaisalKaragoly
Thanks a lot. Really appreciate the detailed replies.

I was just trying to find out opinions from people outside the country rather than the right or wrong answer. [thanks jetfuel]

yeahh, it is quite odd for UG lol. but the last two replies were great =] very helpful. [thanks xeronbrigs]

unfortunately quite true, this country relies too much on resources such as oil I believe, though they are diversifying atm. [thanks hipotato]


On a side note, you are definitely the nicest person I have ever met on UG.

Keep it up!
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that question is a bit too vague to answer and its hard to weigh the positives and the negatives plus it will take decades to tell if it was worth it after all, with the current real estate market in Dubai.


Why did you mention the real estate market in dubai? I mean, what's that got to do with the palm?

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On a side note, you are definitely the nicest person I have ever met on UG.

Keep it up!


=] thanks. I've seen quite a few...not-so-nice people on UG lol. it's not too great really, kinda insulting sometimes. but yeah, you've gotta be nice to people if you want them to be nice to you in return i guess.

i'll try and keep it up =] lol.
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#11
Quote by FaisalKaragoly
Thanks a lot. Really appreciate the detailed replies.

I was just trying to find out opinions from people outside the country rather than the right or wrong answer. [thanks jetfuel]

yeahh, it is quite odd for UG lol. but the last two replies were great =] very helpful. [thanks xeronbrigs]

unfortunately quite true, this country relies too much on resources such as oil I believe, though they are diversifying atm. [thanks hipotato]

Glad to help, mate
#12
Positive definitely out-weighs negative. More tourism and i heard that it has more fish around it now then before it was there.
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#13
No. It's a totally unjustifiable display of opulence, only applying to and benefiting the very rich. Not that the people building and visiting it care.
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#14
Dubai has very little income from oil relative to it's total GDP. Its main produce is tourism and business. Which is also why they've been badly hit by the credit crunch while the rest of the Middle East is rolling in oily money (since prices have gone up)

Anyways. NOW I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT the term "artificial island" seems to me like it was manmade; since it isn't naturally a part of the environment anything that goes on there shouldn't affect the rest of the environment I don't think.
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Dubai has very little income from oil relative to it's total GDP. Its main produce is tourism and business. Which is also why they've been badly hit by the credit crunch while the rest of the Middle East is rolling in oily money (since prices have gone up)

Anyways. NOW I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT the term "artificial island" seems to me like it was manmade; since it isn't naturally a part of the environment anything that goes on there shouldn't affect the rest of the environment I don't think.



Aww, I wanted to flaunt my UAE knowledge. I think your Sheikh is a really smart man by using the money gained from oil to improve the tourism infrastructure. So, yes, economically it is a very positive thing.

And, secondly, the creation of the Palm is essentially land reclamation. Reclamation can cause destructions of natural habitats, increasing the toxicity of sediments etc. I guess it is great now, but in the long run, the Palm would probably fade away.

Moral of the story: Don't buy apartments there


Edit: For a less vague answer, yes, it does outweigh the negatives as Dubai does have other tourist structures besides the Palm
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#17
Just wanted to say thanks a lot to everyone.
Really appreciate the detailed answers, don't mean this in a bad way [it's just last time i had a question for ppl, i just got told to use google...though I already had] but everyone's been surprisingly helpful. =]
Thanks again.
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No. It's a totally unjustifiable display of opulence, only applying to and benefiting the very rich. Not that the people building and visiting it care.


This.
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No. It's a totally unjustifiable display of opulence, only applying to and benefiting the very rich. Not that the people building and visiting it care.


I admire your straightforward reply, but the fact that the palm does increase tourism and global awareness of dubai does benefit the less-better-off as well. The multiplier effect; the more people and income coming into the country and circling around, the better off the country's finance situation is. Plus, more income comes in, more income goes to the government, who's budget increases, meaning they would have a larger budget to spend on public transport etc [or things that would generally benefit not only the rich]

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