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#1
I need an amp that can give me a good clean and awesome heavy distortion like Metallica, Bullet, A7X.


Peavey 6505 or Mesa Single Rectifier?
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#3
Both really different amps, you'll have to try them to decide which you like better.

The Mesa will have better cleans though.
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#4
The Rectifiers have better cleans. Something for you to consider.

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#6
I agree wit what everyone said about the mesa.
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#7
Mesa has better cleans on it, however I like the distorted sounds of the Peavey much, much more. I find the recto sound too throaty for my liking.
I guess it all depends on how much you will be using your clean channel.
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#8
if it's between those two amps, the mesa sounds better for you, but there are other amps that do both pretty well. the mesa f series has amazing cleans and pretty solid dirty sounds, and the mark series is the other way around.
#9
Between those two I'd always go for the Mesa, because both have great distortion (the Peavey's may be just a touch better than the Mesa's, but there isn't much in it) but the Mesa has much, much better cleans than the Peavey.
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#10
Well, Metallica uses Mesa Heads until they switched to Randall, and A7X uses Mesa Heads, but Bullet Uses Peavey....

Mesa has a really rick tone on the overdrive and the cleans are really nice, so if i were you i would go with a Mesa.
#11
mesa no contest
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#12
peavey no contest
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#13
Mesa all the way
Peaveys are nice
but Mesa's another level
plus it's cleans are good, the 6505's cleans are a joke
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#14
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Mesa all the way
Peaveys are nice
but Mesa's another level
plus it's cleans are good, the 6505's cleans are a joke

rectos are another level of loose distortion and less agression
the cleans on the mesa will be better, but the 6505+ has useable cleans
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#15
Look at a Bugera. I was considering it after watching some videos on youtube
Look for mtucks5150
#16
....peavey and mesa fanboys, eh? no objectivity.


I'd go with a Randall RM with an XTC, Treadplate, and UltraXL module.


If you need cleans, get a DLX module.
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#17
Mesa if you want a little bitchy distortion, peavey if you want a sick one. The cleans on the 6505+ are fine if you get a nice chorus pedal or add some delay.

EDIT: I love Mesa Boogie BTW
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#18
They're both differently voiced amps, so it's one of those cases where you gotta go check both out yourself and decide.

But pretty much everything else that's been said is true. Mesa = more versatile, 6505 = more br00t4l. I'd personally go with a Mesa, but that's just me, I like an amp with good on board cleans too. Also, I'd avoid the stock 6505 cab if you're going the head & combo route, they sound much better through other cabs IMO.
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#19
Try for a used Mark IV
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#20
im selling my 5150 to get a mesa, nuff said
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#21
Quote by BigRob91
im selling my 5150 to get a mesa, nuff said

yep, your making a mistake
i am not a peavey fanboy (though i do own one)
i just think that mesa sounds loose, cheap, and is overpriced (im speaking on behalf of rectos, i have never played the mark series or the f series)
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#22
Stiletto trident is MILES ahead of the 5150, though I'm not a recto fan either
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#23
Quote by BigRob91
im selling my 5150 to get a mesa, nuff said

Unless you plan on cranking the **** out of that thing have fun with your loose not so heavy distortion....I do like it though

EDIT: yeah get the stiletto. I assumed you were getting a recto
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#24
Quote by BigRob91
Stiletto trident is MILES ahead of the 5150, though I'm not a recto fan either

oh i thought you meant you were gettin a recto
i like the stiletto, but i am a fan of the raging 6505 drive
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Schecter C-7 Loomis FR

Mesa Boogie Mark III blue dot Coliseum

Mesa Traditional 4x12 v30's x EVM 12l's


THE SEVEN STRING LEGION
#26
They're two totally differently voiced amps, which is why you see a lot of metal bands where one guitarists uses a 5150/6505 and the other a Recto. Every amp has its flaws. A Recto is know for it's sag and low end, which can easily be tightened up with an OD. A 5150/6505 has a harsh high end and relatively flat sound. Both amps are very well suited for metal, it just depends what type of sound you're after.

Quote by musicfan1234
Well, Metallica uses Mesa Heads until they switched to Randall, and A7X uses Mesa Heads, but Bullet Uses Peavey....


I don't know their names, but when I saw BFMV the one guitarist/singer was using a 6505 and the other guitarist was using Mesa.
#27
Quote by musicfan1234
Well, Metallica uses Mesa Heads until they switched to Randall, and A7X uses Mesa Heads, but Bullet Uses Peavey....

Mesa has a really rick tone on the overdrive and the cleans are really nice, so if i were you i would go with a Mesa.

this is unadulterated sh*t
hetfield uses mesa and diezel
hammett uses mesa and randall (if at all)
A7x uses the damn uberschall
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Schecter C-7 Loomis FR

Mesa Boogie Mark III blue dot Coliseum

Mesa Traditional 4x12 v30's x EVM 12l's


THE SEVEN STRING LEGION
#29
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i just think that mesa sounds loose, cheap, and is overpriced (im speaking on behalf of rectos, i have never played the mark series or the f series)
They're better

I'm not a huge recto fan myself (I just find them kinda fizzy and loose sounding, and a bit harsh at times), but I love the F-series (I own one). The Mark's are awesome too, but are bit too much of tweakers toys for my taste.

Supposedly the older 2-channel rectos are better, and any recto sounds better with a tube swap.
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#30
then why are rectos so popular?
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#31
Beats me man. Maybe Endorsement deals are part of it, in that people go out and buy them when they look into what their favorite bands are using.
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#32
2 Channel Rectos eat 5150s for breakfast imo.




Most people who say Rectos sound like **** don't know how to use them and are intimidated by the active EQ and all the buttons.
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#33
Like said, both sound very different and are good in their own ways.
I love the 6505 and have used them on several occasions, but from what I've seen of them, they bring a lot of noise. I used to jam with a guy who used one and had pretty solid gear. To get the exact desired tone out of the thing though, it would always feedback and have a lot of unwanted noise. And this was with a decent noise gate blocking it.
They are solid amps though. Especially for leads!
However, I'm gonna have to vote Mesa Dual/Triple Rectifiers for the overall better amp.
#34
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2 Channel Rectos eat 5150s for breakfast imo.




Most people who say Rectos sound like **** don't know how to use them and are intimidated by the active EQ and all the buttons.


I agree with this.

Having owned a Single Recto I can say that it is one of the better sounding Rectos out there. I never had a problem with loose bass with the single. Go out and try one if you can, they're amazing. Read the manual online before you try it and learn how the eq works. Also if you can try out an older 2ch Recto, they sound pretty different from the new 3 channel and they're the reason the Recto is so popular.
#35
I like Recto's a lot. They sound so damn massive. I love Mark Tremonti's rhythm tone, and they're his favorite amp.
#36
Quote by musicfan1234
Well, Metallica uses Mesa Heads until they switched to Randall, and A7X uses Mesa Heads, but Bullet Uses Peavey....

Mesa has a really rick tone on the overdrive and the cleans are really nice, so if i were you i would go with a Mesa.


Metallica never used Randalls...
#38
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Metallica never used Randalls...

I think he's referring to Kirk Hammet's signature MTS head.
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#39
Well bullet uses 6505's. Personally the single rec doesn't compare to the 6505 IMO. The dual rec and triple rec do. They have a lot different tone. Although I'd still choose the 6505 over it. Look at how many bands use 6505's over Mesas. Actually Bullet uses 6505's and triple rec's but I'd say most of their tone is the 6505. Live their tone is half of each. But the triple rec mixes so well with the 6505. If they didn't have the 6505 the tone wouldn't be the way it is. The 6505 is a monster and I'd buy it. It's cheaper and better. If you just have to have the mesa then get the dual rec. The single rec is 50 watts and that might attract you but it's more than just the watts. It doesn't have the same tone.
A lot of bands use 6505's for cleans too, such as you mentioned bullet. But a lot of people don't like them. IMO they get the job done. Get the 6505+ and be happy.
#40
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Metallica never used Randalls...


Yeah they do. Kirk has used that Randall live actually. I don't know what he's using now.
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