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Mostly theory
5 7%
Mostly ear
21 28%
Mixture of the two
39 53%
Other
2 3%
I don't write yet.
7 9%
Voters: 74.
#1
Do you write mostly along side your knowledge of theory, use of your ear (fool around on your instrument and seeing what sounds good), or use a equal mixture of both?
#3
I go by ear, then do 'patchwork' using theory.

I made a neat riff in E minor, and I didn't even know it was E minor until I decided to 're-look' at it today. (aka "Why does everything but 1 note sound good in this?")

It turns out I was using a minor 2nd, replaced it with a major 2nd, sounds 10x better.

(It's a really simple riff, sounds familiar but I can't place my finger on the song....)


e
B
G
D
A
E-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-7-8-0-0-0-0-7-8-7-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-7-8-0-07-8-7-5-


That's the main part of the riff (and its the 'basic' version....) (too lazy to tab out the rest) in case anyones interested.

It's in 8th's




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#4
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Mixture of the two/I dont write yet. I mostly go for technique practices, but I mostly compose them myself.


Your style of songwriting?
#5
I go strongly by ear, but I use theory to my advantage to make the process easier and more efficient. I go by what sounds good, and theory will allow me to achieve "sounds good."
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#6
Everyone writes by ear. I'm not sure if you understand what music theory is.
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#7
Theory
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#8
I know a load of theory but it honestly doesn't mean **** if I don't have any inspiration. Such is the conundrum of musical creation!
#9
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Everyone writes by ear. I'm not sure if you understand what music theory is.

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#10
I just think up melodies as I'm walking, working, etc..., then put them down on whichever instrument once I get home... If I can remember everything.
#11
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I made a neat riff in E minor,It turns out I was using a minor 2nd, replaced it with a major 2nd, sounds 10x better.

(It's a really simple riff, sounds familiar but I can't place my finger on the song....)


e
B
G
D
A
E-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-7-8-0-0-0-0-7-8-7-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-7-8-0-07-8-7-5-




There is no F# in that riff.
#12
Wow, that's a good question. I chose the "mixture of the two" option, as I sometimes improvise randomly, but at least half of the time, I think I consciously choose notes based on the chords I've used.
#13
i always write by ear but later have a good listen to it and change the odd chord and so on using my theory knowledge
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#14
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Everyone writes by ear. I'm not sure if you understand what music theory is.



I saying using your ear in a different context. I'm not sure if you can read or not but I clearly put.

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Do you write mostly along side your knowledge of theory, use of your ear (fool around on your instrument and seeing what sounds good), or use a equal mixture of both?



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#15
I usually just play different chords and riffs and see what sounds good together.
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#17
Having perfect pitch is a huge advantage for me because I'm regularly thinking of ideas for melodies, songs and whatnot and I can easily translate that into my instrument, but having theoretical knowledge helps me because I can create a more interesting sound and know exactly why.
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use of your ear (fool around on your instrument and seeing what sounds good)

I wouldn't say fooling around and guessing is using your ear in the "well trained ear" sense. Of course you're using your ears, but I usually take "play by ear" to mean the ability to hear something and play effectively over it without "fooling around".
#18
The advantage to knowing some theory would be that I can label sounds while im writing them. It would be silly not to use theory, I don't expect to come up with a song by mashing random keys and chords on a piano.
#19
I`m just messing around with my guitar creating Jimi hendrix live at Woodstock noises.......I really need to buy a record thingy
#20
Quote by The Arsis
I saying using your ear in a different context. I'm not sure if you can read or not but I clearly put.


Less time making yourself look like a assclown will get you far.


That's an interesting definition of "by ear". By interesting, I of course mean "contrary to the definition the rest of Humanity is using". What you're describing is called blind guessing, not "playing by ear". Most reasonable people would define playing by ear as writing based on what you find interesting or pleasing.
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#21
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Do you write mostly along side your knowledge of theory, use of your ear (fool around on your instrument and seeing what sounds good), or use a equal mixture of both?



I don't see the need to look at it from an ear vs theory perspective. It all comes into play.
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#22
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I don't see the need to look at it from an ear vs theory perspective. It all comes into play.



look at the title, it says "Your style of songwriting?" not "Theory vs ear"


The thread is just to see the percentage of people that base theory in their songwriting and people who don't. It is far away from a vs subject.
#23
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look at the title, it says "Your style of songwriting?" not "Theory vs ear"


The thread is just to see the percentage of people that base theory in their songwriting and people who don't. It is far away from a vs subject.


It should be titled, "Who knows music theory, and who does not". I don't see how you can write music without theory unless you dont know it. Ex I can play random notes on my guitar, but I am still going to label the intervals I am playing upon hearing them.
#24
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It should be titled, "Who knows music theory, and who does not". I don't see how you can write music without theory unless you dont know it. Ex I can play random notes on my guitar, but I am still going to label the intervals I am playing upon hearing them.


I wouldn't say that's entirely true. I'd say it really depends on how complete your knowledge is, and how proficient you are at applying that knowledge.

For example I feel I have a fairly decent knowledge of theory, but I haven't gotten to the point where I know what's going on without taking a few seconds to actually consider it and work out what's really happen. So when writing a song I usually don't really consider the theory aspect unless I'm aiming for really specific results or if I've written myself into a corner and need to find a way out.

In the end I can generally explain what's going on in my music, but I think if I wrote it with theory specifically in mind, than the results would be far less interesting.
#25
By ear since I don't know any theory Would help if I do for writing solos.
#26
Quote by blueriver
It should be titled, "Who knows music theory, and who does not". I don't see how you can write music without theory unless you dont know it. Ex I can play random notes on my guitar, but I am still going to label the intervals I am playing upon hearing them.


lol are you kidding?
#27
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lol are you kidding?


Music theory is a way to describe music. I can lie to myself and say that I'm not hearing a minor third interval, or a C7 chord for the sake of avoiding theory, but that really isn't going to do anything besides slow down my writing process. With the end result I can still explain exactly what was written with music theory. All theory does, and a handfull of eartraining to go with it, is help me use my ear even better. Instead of blindly trying to make a melody not knowing what I am imagining, I have sounds labeled so I can easily transpose them from my head onto sheet music or whatever I want to play on. It's alot easier to just know what something is going to sound like before or without playing it then having to noodle around until I find what I am looking for.
#28
I really never use theory. I don't have much training in it but I love to write music and I just play my acoustic and see what sounds good.
#29
I will base the song on a scale, then go from there.

Not always though, I came up with one today and yesterday by ear.
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