#1
I was wondering if anyone may have any advice for getting Billy Joe Armstrong's guitar tone from Greenday's Basket Case. Some friends and I are starting a punk band and i really love the guitar tone on this song but I am at a loss on how to achieve it.
#2
what gear do you have now? it is a pretty basic pop/punk tone.

Addendum: actually, did you look in the stickied "ultimate settings thread"? they have billie's EQ/gain settings in there (second post) that i would have said anyways.
Last edited by Skierinanutshel at Mar 15, 2009,
#4
^ that would sound horrible.

here is what is in the settings thread:

Quote by settings thread

Billie Joe Armstrong (newer) of Green Day
Drive - 6
Treble - 10
Mid - 8
Bass - 5
Reverb ? 3

Billie Joe Armstrong (older) of Green Day
Gain:9
Treble:10
Mid:8
Bass:5
Reverb:3


i have used something very similar to the 'older' settings for when i come around, basket case, and brain stew, and they all sounded great.
#5
Right now I am using modified Squire strat and a 30 watt crate amp but I am looking into a Marshall HDFX100 head with a 4x12 slant cab and an epiphone casino
#6
don't get an MG or a hollowbody if you want that kind of sound. Get an LP Junior and a Marshall tube amp.
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#7
Quote by Kid_Thorazine
don't get an MG or a hollowbody if you want that kind of sound.



this. for the older albums, billie used a strat copy (right?), but i have no idea what the amp was. an MG, although a good practice amp with not-too-shabby-but-lifeless cleans, will sound very tinny when distorted, and the higher-wattage version is just an amplified signal of the same thing.
#8
Billy used a 59 plexi or super lead and a vintage marshall with a master volume mod but i dont necessarily have that greenday cash flow lol.
#9
So what type of amp would you recommend? I want an amp with at least a hundred watt rating for when we are playing small outdoor gigs which is probably what we will be doing most.
#10
Quote by punklivz
Billy used a 59 plexi or super lead and a vintage marshall with a master volume mod but i dont necessarily have that greenday cash flow lol.


the magic thing is, you dont need that type of cash flow! i would for sure look into buying used, and are you going to be gigging/playing with a drummer a lot? in either case, 20-30 tube watts should do the trick, since it seems you'll be focusing on higher-gain tones and you dont need the clean headroom.
#11
Yes. Our drummer is very loud and flashy, quite similar to Blink-182's first drummer Scott. And our bassist has an 80 watt rig.
#12
Absolutely do not buy that amp.

See if you can find a used Peavey Vintage 30, or a Traynor. Since you're probably on a budget, also try the Peavey Transtube series (dirt cheap and dependable) or Windsor (cheap but reasonable Plexi/JCM clone), they're both ace. As for guitar, I would have thought a Fender-esque axe with a bridge humbucker would work well. Your modifed Squire might do the trick nicely.

Since this is in the recording forum, I assume you want to know how to get his tone on tape?
Dead simple, I imagine just a single close-mic'd SM57 almost dead in the centre of the speaker. Minimal reverb, a moderate amount of compression and you're good to go.


EDIT: You sure as hell don't need 100W for outdoor gigs. I've got a 50W Mesa which never gets past three or four in even the biggest clubs (unmic'd). If you get a valve amp 30W will be plenty, and 15W should be okay.
And 80W is bordering on pathetic for a bass rig, you'll want a bare minimum of 150W, though 300W+ is preferable.
Last edited by kyle62 at Mar 15, 2009,
#13
Quote by punklivz
Yes. Our drummer is very loud and flashy, quite similar to Blink-182's first drummer Scott. And our bassist has an 80 watt rig.



you arent realizing how loud tube watts are. and an 80-watt rig is nothing (the frequencies are picked up by the human ear differently, so 80 bass watts and 80 guitar watts vary a good bit)

take for instance, a JTM45. it is only about 30-35 watts, and still a really loud amp. plusm, i'm guessing there will be a PA at these shows, and you woudl mic your amp to said PA, so even a 5-watt amp would do the trick.


addendum: i just saw this in in riffs and recordings . if you want more info on the amp, go to GG&A, read the stickies, then post if you have any more questions.
Last edited by Skierinanutshel at Mar 15, 2009,
#14
Well a PA would only be available if our band either purchased the system or the venue provided the system. When i played with a blues band we played an old juke joint and we just used our guitars and amps except the bassist and singers whould would run their signals to a PA.
#15
Quote by punklivz
Well a PA would only be available if our band either purchased the system or the venue provided the system. When i played with a blues band we played an old juke joint and we just used our guitars and amps except the bassist and singers whould would run their signals to a PA.


Works fine in theory, but you'll find some venues are very fussy with what you put through their PA - a lot are only designed to handle vocals. Our bass player uses a 4x10 combo, but he also plugs his upright into the PA when it's possible, for quick changes.
#16
Quote by punklivz
Billy used a 59 plexi or super lead and a vintage marshall with a master volume mod but i dont necessarily have that greenday cash flow lol.

I know this is an old thread, but a model 1959 Plexi and Super Lead are the exact same thing. And usually when someone says "vintage Marshall" they are talking about a Super Lead.
#17
I'm so fed up of people (in real life and on this site) asking "what settings should I use for ____".

There's no 'setting' that will be correct for any amp other than the one it was dialled in on to decide those 'settings'. All amps and equipment create different tones..


Edit: Just realised this was a mega-bump by the poster above me... FML.
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#18
Quote by DisarmGoliath
I'm so fed up of people (in real life and on this site) asking "what settings should I use for ____".

There's no 'setting' that will be correct for any amp other than the one it was dialled in on to decide those 'settings'. All amps and equipment create different tones..


Edit: Just realised this was a mega-bump by the poster above me... FML.

Sorry about the mega-bump, but I agree. Unless you are using the exact same stuff as the person with that setting, it won't be correct.