#1
Okay well I have a Line 6 Spider III 15 Watt and the different options you have are...

Treble, Gain, Master Volume, Drive, Bass, Mid, and Channel Volume. All knobs go up to 11 please tell me a good sound.

Ex:

Treble: 9
Gain: 11
Channel Volume: 10
Bass: 4
Drive: 7
Mid: 11
...
#2
I would suggest the following:

Throw out that amp and buy a good amp.
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Justice4AllOne pretty much mentioned all of my ideas so yeah...pointless pun post.

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Thanks fer settin me straight on that Justice

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I was thinking that too, Justice usually seems like a pretty knowledgeable guy.
#3
Quote by Justice4AllOne
I would suggest the following:

Throw out that amp and buy a good amp.

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#4
Quote by Justice4AllOne
I would suggest the following:

Throw out that amp and buy a good amp.

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#5
Best Line 6 Setting:
Insane Channel

Gain 7

Mid 6

Bass 3

Treble 8

Master Volume: 0
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#8
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Best Line 6 Setting:
Insane Channel

Gain 7

Mid 6

Bass 3

Treble 8

Master Volume: 0



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#10
The Spider is awful and should go.
If you want a Slash sound then you need a fucking '59 Les Pal, genuine original Crybaby wah and a Marshall 2555 Jubilee. No compromise.
If what you wanted was a rough approximation, you'll still need a Les Paul and a good Marshall or Marshall model, which the Spider doesn't have.

But I digress.
Use the Marshall model on your amp, scoop the mids slightly, keep your treble and bass roughly equal and don't use too much gain/drive. He doesn't use as much as you might think.
And use the neck pickup on your Les Paul. if you don't have a Les Paul or at least a Gibson style instrument you've got no chance.
#11
Guys, 15w ss is a practice amp, try to give the guy what he wants.

OP, try on a mild distortion setting;

Treble: 7
Gain: 4/5
Channel Volume: Whatever's appropriate, don't blow your ears out or piss your roommates/family off.
Bass: 6
Drive: There's a gain -and- a drive? ok, Whatever. Zero here, tweak it yourself 'til you find something you like.
Mid: 8/9


Ultimate settings thread might give you better ideas than this too, since I don't play G'n'R, and would never have reason to attempt dialling their tone.

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if you don't have a Les Paul or at least a Gibson style instrument you've got no chance.


Slash used BC Rich Mockingbirds a lot in G'n'R.
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#13
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Slash used BC Rich Mockingbirds a lot in G'n'R.

Gibson style instrument. Thick mahogany body, set 24" 3/4 scale length neck and two humbuckers.
And he wouldn't have his mids that high. Slash does scoop his mids a little.
#14
It is incredibably hard to get any normal crunch-mid gain rock sound on any spider period.

My spider is a good practise amp for what I use, and it has usable cleans and distortion once I've tweaked it. But anything in between is not good imo. I found a quite good Chinese democracy setting the other week however, but a dry slash sound isnt really in the spiders realm.
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#15
Quote by Rock Pig
Gibson style instrument. Thick mahogany body, set 24" 3/4 scale length neck and two humbuckers.
And he wouldn't have his mids that high. Slash does scoop his mids a little.


He used the mockingbird only once I think and it was for You Could Be Mine. Also the only video where he doesnt only use les pauls. The only other one he used to my knowledge is an SG for My Michelle.
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#17
Everyone who told him to throw his amp out needs to grow up. He asked for help on working with what he has, not for you to be dicks. If you're going to post in a "help me" thread, you should help or not post at all. It's nice and stuff that you want him to get better equipment, but he probably already knows that it isn't all that great.

The best way to find a tone you like for a song is to start with everything at 5 and test your way through and find what combination work best for what you're playing. "Good" is a subjective term so it'll take a little work on your part to find what you think is a suitable tone.
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#20
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Everyone who told him to throw his amp out needs to grow up. He asked for help on working with what he has, not for you to be dicks. If you're going to post in a "help me" thread, you should help or not post at all. It's nice and stuff that you want him to get better equipment, but he probably already knows that it isn't all that great.

The best way to find a tone you like for a song is to start with everything at 5 and test your way through and find what combination work best for what you're playing. "Good" is a subjective term so it'll take a little work on your part to find what you think is a suitable tone.


glad someone stuck up for him cause if i said anything it wouldnt be as nice as this poster says it.
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#21
these are his settings on his marshall

presence 9
bass 8.2
middle 6
treble 6
volume 10
gain 6.2
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#22
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..... Line 6 = NO


get of the bandwaggon u tardfest.
dont bash a whole company because of one lousy series.
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#23
Try experimenting yourself on the Crunch and Metal settings.

Don't believe what everyone else says, Spider III's are a good practice amp and have a good sound to them once you have messed around with it.

I would not mind a Roland Microcube though.
#24
Quote by Justice4AllOne
I would suggest the following:

Throw out that amp and buy a good amp.


I would suggest the following:

Jump off the bandwagon.
#25
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get of the bandwaggon u tardfest.
dont bash a whole company because of one lousy series.



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#26
Quote by The Arsis
I would suggest the following:

Jump off the bandwagon.

I've played a Spider III, just to see if they were as bad as everyone said.
It's not a bandwagon if it's true.
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Justice4AllOne pretty much mentioned all of my ideas so yeah...pointless pun post.

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Thanks fer settin me straight on that Justice

Quote by oneblackened
I was thinking that too, Justice usually seems like a pretty knowledgeable guy.
#27
Quote by Justice4AllOne
I've played a Spider III, just to see if they were as bad as everyone said.
It's not a bandwagon if it's true.



Give me reasons why it sucked.
#28
Spider III isn't a good amp. The point is, stop telling people that everytime they even mention the thing, and make some constructive points, relevant to TS' initial question.
#29
Quote by The Arsis
Give me reasons why it sucked.

Talking from experience...
It sounds sterile and digital.
The response/dynamics are very stiff, more so than competitors like the Vypry and Vox VT series.
Mid-gained rock tones in particular are horrendous.
Muddy with no note seperation.
On board effects sounded like Behringer pedals.
The clean and Insane channels were alright but that was about it.

Edit: To defend myself from those who are complaining about the lack of input from Spider haters (arachnophobes?)
I have posted plenty informatively on the first page. I am not here strictly to diss the Spider.
But in fact, a new amp is the most viable proposition, because at classic rock levels of gain the Spider is pretty abysmal.
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#32
lol at bandwagoners
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#33
Quote by Justice4AllOne
I would suggest the following:

Throw out that amp and buy a good amp.
Lol. I listened to this, I kept that amp for 3 days and then returned it back to guitar center.

Honestly though, listen to these people.
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#34
Sell it to a n00b guitar friend of yours
then buy a 15watt peavey vypyr
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#35
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guys ffs, im a 12 year old kid, i cant afford that and my bday is in november

And it shows in both your grammar and your inability to accept the fact that you simply won't be able to achieve a passable Slash tone through your current amp.
What guitar do you play? That's quite important.
#36
Hitting it with a sledgehammer might help.
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#37
Quote by Rock Pig
Talking from experience...
It sounds sterile and digital.
The response/dynamics are very stiff, more so than competitors like the Vypry and Vox VT series.
Mid-gained rock tones in particular are horrendous.
Muddy with no note seperation.
On board effects sounded like Behringer pedals.
The clean and Insane channels were alright but that was about it.

Edit: To defend myself from those who are complaining about the lack of input from Spider haters (arachnophobes?)
I have posted plenty informatively on the first page. I am not here strictly to diss the Spider.
But in fact, a new amp is the most viable proposition, because at classic rock levels of gain the Spider is pretty abysmal.


The question wasn't open. I wanted his answer because that tells me if he is a bandwagon groupie or a genuine person with a real opinion. I know that they SPider isn't great good btw. I personally tried it and had it.
#38
Quote by The Arsis
The question wasn't open. I wanted his answer because that tells me if he is a bandwagon groupie or a genuine person with a real opinion. I know that they SPider isn't great good btw. I personally tried it and had it.

He was about right on with what I'd say.

Very sterile, fake sound.
Very muddy, especially on gain.
Terrible included effects.
I couldn't get a good tone out of it. I tried it with a Tele, a Strat, and a Les Paul.

Does that help?
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Justice4AllOne pretty much mentioned all of my ideas so yeah...pointless pun post.

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Thanks fer settin me straight on that Justice

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I was thinking that too, Justice usually seems like a pretty knowledgeable guy.
#39
Yes the spider sounds bad, and if you have no help whatsoever to offer other than "Lawl @ u", go away.

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glad someone stuck up for him cause if i said anything it wouldnt be as nice as this poster says it.


I was going to be a little less polite about it, but I realize half of what I felt like saying gets censored anyway.
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#40
Threads like this one fascinate me. One the one hand, the mention of the Spider line of guitar amps invokes autonomic retching that would be the envy of Pavlov's dogs. Oh the other hand, according to most sites that sell guitar amps, the Line 6 offerings and the Spiders in particular pretty much blow away everything else in units sold.

Which makes one wonder: Why does everyone hate what everyone else is buying? Musician's Friend makes this comment:
All the technology in the world won’t guarantee you great tone. It’s all about how you dial it in to capture the essence of your style in the context of a tune. With Spider III, Line 6 invited a group of artists into the model design process to evaluate, tweak, and ultimately ensure that Spider III delivered on their pro tone expectations. The results are more realistic, expressive, versatile, and tonally rich than any amp in its price range.

I suspect part of my answer is buried in this house-organ sales pitch. What Line 6 has done, basically, is to produce in an extremely affordable package an amp that does a pretty decent job of modeling some high-end amps used by Guitar Hero himself, which is a pretty impressive accomplishment.

No, you're not going to get $2500 worth of sound for $100-500 in purchase price, but the fact that you can come close is where all those sales numbers come from. And THAT in turn means you have a handy bank of easily-abused effects and distortion at the fingertips of an army of teenagers who learned guitar last week, and this week learned they sound MUCH better with the knob set to "insane".

It's possible to sound focused and tasteful through a Spider III. But it's so much EASIER to sound just awful. One of the prices of versatility. But those who recommend another cheap amp on the grounds that since it can't do much, it can't do much BAD, aren't very grown-up either.