#1
(After accidentally posting this in The Pit I feel like a complete idiot )

I just got back from guitar center and played both of these amps including a Peavey 6505 and JSX which i was both dissapointed with for some reason. The JSX sounded terrible when cranked and I didnt bring the 6505 into the loud room because I was not impressed with it when I plugged it in.

The amps I was really impressed with were the Switchblade and the Spider Valve. The Switchblade sounded amazing (the palm mutes literaly blew me away) and it was used going for $1000. I just want to know the pro's and con's of this thing because I obviously didnt do enough amp research when I bought my Spider II did I? Also I want to know the pro's and con's of the Spider Valve and I wanted to know if UG frowns upon this amp like they do with the Spider II's.

I have $550 right now and I'm looking for a job at the moment (although with my bangs to my nose I doubt anyone would hire me until I cut it cleaner which I really dont want to).

I just started a band and we had our first rehersal last week just to see how we all sounded together. It sounded great except for my stupid Spider II. So if this band thing continues then I'll need to get a half stack or something loud that sounds good. The manager at guitar center asked me what kind of music I played and my budget (I told him $500-$1000) and he brought me these 2 amps and a JSX to try out on a Mesa Rectifier 2x12. Out of the 3 I tried in the loud room I rate them as Switchblade > Spider Valve > JSX.

Also I'm looking for a good 2x12 cab that will work for metal that gives a nice tight warm sound.

What do you guys think I should look at next or if you have any information on these 2 amps I would love to hear it. Thanks and sorry about the wall of text, I usually see a lot of posts saying "we need more information" so there is your information. If you need to know anything else to help me out then please ask.
Last edited by gtrplyr at Mar 18, 2009,
#2
Switchblade is an incredible amp. I'd take it over an SV anyday, and I owned an SV.
I'm putting my GAS on hold
for a couple months in order to pimp my ride.


Don't judge me.
#3
Quote by theoreticmusic
Switchblade is an incredible amp. I'd take it over an SV anyday, and I owned an SV.



think i could get a bullet for my valentine tone out of it?
#4
Quote by gtrplyr
think i could get a bullet for my valentine tone out of it?

Didn't you play it?
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#5
Quote by endless_fight1
Didn't you play it?



ya but i didnt really mess with the settings, i just let the manager set it to something heavy and then let my dad play around with the settings while i played.
#7
Quote by theoreticmusic
yes.

Ok good job.

I would go with the switchblade. Go back and play it for a while. H&K>Line 6
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Last edited by endless_fight1 at Mar 18, 2009,
#8
sounds good, what 2x12 thats affordable should i try with it? also what are some good settings for that kind of sound
#9
Quote by endless_fight1
Ok good job. I would go with the switchblade. Go back and play it for a while. H&K>Line 6

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I'm, uh...not the thread starter.

I'm putting my GAS on hold
for a couple months in order to pimp my ride.


Don't judge me.
#10
Quote by theoreticmusic
....


I'm, uh...not the thread starter.


I know.
Call me the rap assassinator. Rhymes rugged and built like Schwarzenegger
#11
lol. i have a switchblade 100watt head with a avatar 2x12 closed back cab loaded with 2 vintage 30s. yes this thing blow away everything i have including my not so favourable mesa dual rectifier and Marshall 30th anniversary. one thing you do have to be careful about the footswitch cable, their not exactly the best cables when hk attach them to the footswitch, and yes i get very desirable bfmv tone, you can literally get any tone out of this, not exaggerating
#12
I've only heard good things about the Switchblade, and would love to be able to play one, so I can't help you much there. However, I have played both the head and 2X12 versions of the Spider Valve and I was impressed with both. Nothing like the normal Spider line. Much better. (for something with "Spider" wrote on it, it is a respectable, good amp)
Found good rhythm and lead tones for what I play (metal, heavy rock, progressive).
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#13
forgot to mention the switchblade and line 6 spider valve comparison, hmmm nop no competition here really, switchblade>spider valve. and yes i used to own a spider 2x12 valve. even with tubes i found the spider still kinda digitally feeling, its like trying to add horsepower to a mule or a donkey.
Last edited by kckyle at Mar 18, 2009,
#14
Quote by kckyle
forgot to mention the switchblade and line 6 spider valve comparison, hmmm nop no competition here really, switchblade>spider valve. and yes i used to own a spider 2x12 valve. even with tubes i found the spider still kinda digitally feeling, its like trying to add horsepower to a mule or a donkey.

& as somebody around here brought up (matrixclaw, i think?), you really have to open up the spider to get out of the digital realm. and it's loud as fuck
I'm putting my GAS on hold
for a couple months in order to pimp my ride.


Don't judge me.
#15
Quote by kckyle
lol. i have a switchblade 100watt head with a avatar 2x12 closed back cab loaded with 2 vintage 30s. yes this thing blow away everything i have including my not so favourable mesa dual rectifier and Marshall 30th anniversary. one thing you do have to be careful about the footswitch cable, their not exactly the best cables when hk attach them to the footswitch, and yes i get very desirable bfmv tone, you can literally get any tone out of this, not exaggerating



Thanks, very helpful
#16
Quote by theoreticmusic
& as somebody around here brought up (matrixclaw, i think?), you really have to open up the spider to get out of the digital realm. and it's loud as fuck

yeah he did mentioned it to me. i had it around 4-5 during a field gig, i think that was pretty cranked?
#17
which one did you have. i had an HD100, and I never got to open that sucker up.
I'm putting my GAS on hold
for a couple months in order to pimp my ride.


Don't judge me.
#18
H&K = Top-of-the-Line

I'm very surprised the Switchblade is still around $1000.00.
Best sounding "versatile" tube amp on the market. Nothing else even comes close.
EVERY channel and setting sounds absolutely fabulous.

The onboard FX are very good as well. Not quite TC Electronics or Eventide...but very close!
#19
Quote by BeerChurch
H&K = Top-of-the-Line

I'm very surprised the Switchblade is still around $1000.00.
Best sounding "versatile" tube amp on the market. Nothing else even comes close.
EVERY channel and setting sounds absolutely fabulous.

The onboard FX are very good as well. Not quite TC Electronics or Eventide...but very close!

$1800 new. ouch. i wants.
I'm putting my GAS on hold
for a couple months in order to pimp my ride.


Don't judge me.
#20
The Switchblade with an Avatar or Mesa cab would be golden. H&K really don't make a bad product in the whole lot of them, and their tube amps sound epic.
#21
Ok... the SV is much better than the Spider III

But do you really have to ask what the majority of UGs opinion would be if they had to choose between an SV and a Switchblade?? Thats pretty much a no brainer.
#22
Quote by theoreticmusic
which one did you have. i had an HD100, and I never got to open that sucker up.

i mentioned it earlier. its a 2x12 combo valve.
#25
i know this is 2-3 months old but i bought a used switchblade a few weeks ago and i love it!

problem is i have no cab... its in my room staring at me and teasing me while i sit and play through my line 6 spider

best part though.... i got it for $600!

funny thing, after reading through this thread i saw kckyle's post again and he said the footswitch cables arent any good well the guy i bought it from said that his footswitch broke so we popped open the cable this week and fixed it

i thought it was ironic that you said that and it happened to this guys footswitch. i guess u werent kidding!


anyways im very happy with the amp, anyone thats looking into getting one should definately get one and dont forget to buy used!