#1
Okay, so we've got some good, popular cover songs for a concert. The best include:
Blitzkrieg Bop - The Ramones (A DEFINITE)
Smells like Teen Spirit - Nirvana
American Idiot - Green Day
My bandmate has also expressed large desire in
Don't Give Up - Eagle-Eye Cherry
which I support all the way. Other songs ready to go live are our originals:
Crossed Over (alternative metal/raprock like Linkin Park)
Crash! (Ramones-ish Leonard Cohen mix with House of the Rising Sun feel)
And a few others with basic chord progressions (Best is Hero or Woodward Avenue) . What am I missing?
Also, we've got backups:
The Joker - Steve Miller Band
Wake Me Up When September Ends - Green Day
Ready to Fall - Rise Against
Talk - Coldplay
Yellow - Coldplay
A few Death Cab songs
Sunday Bloody Sunday - U2
Using the songs I listed, could someone please put them in a good order, using however many needed?
#2
i wont be able to put them in order (teach a man to fish reason)
crowds love a bit known upbeat song to start the set list, something that the band plays flawlessly and is very energetic, this is also the same to finish, cause u ask a person so how was the band you watch they will remember a big opener and a good closure to the sure

Crowd friendly, isnt that your aim is to get your crowd to be on your side take those two point into consideration
#3
My advice is to ditch the Greenday covers.
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i wont be able to put them in order (teach a man to fish reason)
crowds love a bit known upbeat song to start the set list, something that the band plays flawlessly and is very energetic, this is also the same to finish, cause u ask a person so how was the band you watch they will remember a big opener and a good closure to the sure

Crowd friendly, isnt that your aim is to get your crowd to be on your side take those two point into consideration


Listen to this man. For your first few gigs, do more covers than original material, opening and closing with big songs, and gradually ween out the covers so that you end up with one or two covers and a load of your own songs in a set list.
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#5
Play lists are usually decided on the day and copies hand written at the last moment. Most bands work that way and the reason is to be able to vary it for the sort of audience you expect. The only rules are to avoid similar songs being together. Similar tempo (there are exceptions to this), same key and similar sentiment should be well mixed up. Save the crowd pleasers for the end a bit, but don't let the flow suffer for that. Open with something dramatic so the crowd take notice right from the start.
Another neat trick is planning what to give them before you hit the stage. Usually you'd go in the same style, but not strong numbers, so you'll sound better than the recorded stuff. The most confident band I ever saw used a selection of Chinese classical tracks with lots of very clockwork type sounds. This led into their opening number as that started with the same type of beat and sounds. Smooth transition. Class act.
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#6
my band doesnt even have set lists.

we have one definite opener (an original our fanbase knows) and one definite closer (has a chant breakdown at the end).

however, we dont play any covers.

honestly, those songs might be TOO popular.

if i ever hear another band cover smells like teen spirit in my life then id never take them seriously.

but to each his own bro. i dont mean to diss on your set.
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My advice is to ditch the Greenday covers.



+1 too much green day(and i don't even mind green day its just every band covers them)

and it might also be good to get rid of Smells like teen spirit

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#8
There's nothing anyone can say that hasnt been said a million times before on this forum.

Open with something that demands attention, keep them enthralled throughout, lead it to the payout at the end.

And covering SLTS is a bad idea. Try something that people still know, but arent bored with. (Very often, its better if they cant QUITE remember who else did the song, so they still associate that song wiht you, rather than the original artist). If you play Nirvana, you'll be associated -in people's minds- with Nirvana. Same with Green Day.
#9
start with your own material
maybe have an introduction of another song and mix it into an original
i agree with ditching SLTS as it has become a cliche
maybe doing different greenday songs
less known but the people who do know will appreciate hearing something they dont get on the radio everyday

your closer should be something that blows their tits off
most upbeat song probably
if you think your own stuff is the most upbeat it is the best to finish with stuff like that
so they remember your song's and don't think oh those guys did a good cover of..
but instead think that last song of theirs was a catchy littler bugger so much so i pooed abit
#10
One thing I wouldn't do if I were you is play Smells like teen spirit or American Idiot but that might be just me
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#11
Please, for the love of ****ing god, don't do Teen Spirit!!, theres tons better Nirvana songs that won't be boring to play. I mean, its cliche to avoid generic cliches, but this is just too cliche to risk being cliche avoiding its cliche-ness.
#12
Don't do Teen Spirit unless you can NAIL the vocals. Otherwise you're just gonna get torn apart for it.
#13
Don't do ANY of those songs. Seriously. They're decent songs but you're not suppose to cover them at a show, maybe practicing with the band but nobody who's a real music lover would want to hear a band play those songs that aren't the original who payed them in the first place.

Pick sort of popular, but not TOO popular that everybody's great grandma knows.

If you want the Ramones, do something like Today Your Love, Tomorrow the World. Or Judy is a Punk or 53rd and 3rd.

Nirvana - Do something off of the Bleach album. About a Girl would be a good one, well known but not as overdone as Teen Spirit.

Green Day - don't do a Green Day song. Let Green Day play Green Day songs.

If you do The Joker, don't play it the same way as the original, do something different and add a twist to it.

Don't play Coldplay.
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#14
The only song i would stick with out of the list is Ready to Fall and your originals
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#15
This is really helpful, guys. Exactly the kind of feedback I need. To those opposed to Blitzkrieg, I think we will be doing that one but for this one I'll just put it as a backup.

Okay, how about this revision
What the Hell's He Saying (A punk original along the lines of AFI/Green Day mix)
Crash! (Read the first post)
Don't Give Up - Eagle-Eye Cherry
Ready to Fall - Rise Against
Raunchola - Nirvana
Crossed Over (Read the first post)

And either that or add Blitzkrieg Bop to the end.

Backups:
Same as before, now just including all the songs I've taken out. I understand the whole point that the impression won't be 'Autograph of the Sun' it'll be 'Nirvana' or 'Green Day'.
#16
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Nirvana - Do something off of the Bleach album. About a Girl would be a good one, well known but not as overdone as Teen Spirit.
Don't play Coldplay.


i was also going to suggest about a girl.

what about some alice in chains or pearl jam?

but not man in the box.
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i was also going to suggest about a girl.

what about some alice in chains or pearl jam?

but not man in the box.

Good suggestions. Keep 'em coming.
We're looking into covering AFI or Pearl Jam, also pop punk like Bllink182, The Offspring, etc.

Plus, mentally add Chasing Cars - Snow Patrol to the backup list.
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#18
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Good suggestions. Keep 'em coming.
We're looking into covering AFI or Pearl Jam, also pop punk like Bllink182, The Offspring, etc.

Plus, mentally add Chasing Cars - Snow Patrol to the backup list.



good job on the snow patrol.

i dont listen to AFI, but do alive or even flow by pearl jam. a lot of bands do them, but not near as many as teen spirit.
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#20
I'm not sure Alice in Chains IS the kind of music we play. I haven't heard them, but I've heard they're along the lines of Godsmack or Papa Roach.
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they are more metal than most of the other grunge bands. Heavier.

Yeah, I had heard that.
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I actually talked to a guy in Modern rock who said that Collective Soul are the heaviest grunge band...

Not too familiar with grunge bands, my personal favorites are Nirvana, Pearl Jam and Soundgarden.
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I'm not sure Alice in Chains IS the kind of music we play. I haven't heard them, but I've heard they're along the lines of Godsmack or Papa Roach.


youve never heard alice in chains?! what?!

i bet youd recognize a song.

and if you like nirvana, youll probably like alice in chains.

theyre like nirvana, but good.
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youve never heard alice in chains?! what?!

i bet youd recognize a song.

and if you like nirvana, youll probably like alice in chains.

theyre like nirvana, but good.

and the vocalist has not got an air conditioned head....oops that was bad taste haha
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and the vocalist has not got an air conditioned head....oops that was bad taste haha


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No, actually. Layne is 6 feet under as of 2002.

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and the vocalist has not got an air conditioned head....oops that was bad taste haha


I lol'd

To TS, good revision, just get them tight and you will be fine i reckon
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youve never heard alice in chains?! what?!

i bet youd recognize a song.

and if you like nirvana, youll probably like alice in chains.

theyre like nirvana, but good.

That's implying Nirvana aren't good. That's, like, a sin.
#30
Ehhh.. does the crowd get into any of those songs?

I can't see the crowds I've seen really getting into any of those choices.. need some 80s power ballads..
#31
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That's implying Nirvana aren't good. That's, like, a sin.


crap. im sorry, implying it must be a sin.


hows this.

nirvana isnt good. more to the point?

haha but really, i like some of their songs, but i wouldnt cover any of it if you want to be taken seriously as a band.

ive never heard someone be like "holy **** dude this band did smells like teen spirit SOOO good the other day omg they're aMaZeRRinG!"
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#32
There's enough decent (albeit conflicting) advice here that I haven't got much to add.

The songs you choose to play are your own business, but get into the habit of writing setlists when you get to the venue, wherever possible. That way you can take a good look at the crowd, make some sweeping generalisations about their tastes, and fine-tune your setlist to suit.


More generally though, if you've been booked then you have to assume the manager has a decent idea of the music you play (though believe me, this is often not the case... ).
Eg, if you're a pop band and you end up in a biker bar, you can't be expected to change your set completely just because you've been misbooked by and incompetent promoter. Sure, you can play your heaviest material to try and keep the crowd from nailing you to a wall by your earlobes, but you can't change the fact that you're a pop band.

Get that balance of crowd-pleasing while staying true to yourselves and you're sorted...
#34
Ok....add Don't Give Up, Blitzkrieg Bop, Ready to Fall and Sunday Morning and two originals. Imagine the above is the setlist.
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Universal Mind - The Liquid Tension Experiment
Fight of the Bumblebee
Machine Gun - Jimi Hendrix
The Clap - Yes
Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen
watermelon in easter hay - Frank Zappa
I Know You're Here - Steve Vai
crossroads - cream

then call everyone there a bitch
#36
Ecstasy of Gold as an Opener
DEFINITELY

And some known crowd friendly song as end
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Fight of the Bumblebee
Machine Gun - Jimi Hendrix
The Clap - Yes
Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen
watermelon in easter hay - Frank Zappa
I Know You're Here - Steve Vai
crossroads - cream

then call everyone there a bitch

NO, no one ever should even try. It is impossible.

NEVER COVER QUEEN. I dont care who your singer is. He cannot do freddy mercury vocals.
You will look RETARDED. And should probably go to hell just for trying.


BTW, I get that you were joking. But thats just my thing about people trying to cover queen
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