#1
I've finally gotten to where I can consistently triplet-slap + pop on my bass. like "doo-doo-doo-pow," if you understand. Les Claypool stuph, yo. It was a goal for me forever and I'm glad I reached it. However...

I think it gave me carpel tunnel or something in my wrist, cuz it hurts like a mutha-licka. Is this a common problem, or is it due to bad technique or what? I've noticed how Claypool wears an arthritis bracelet on his right hand. Is it destined for all slap bassists to succumb to joint issues? I'm just curious.
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#4
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I've noticed how Claypool wears an arthritis bracelet on his right hand. Is it destined for all slap bassists to succumb to joint issues? I'm just curious.


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#5
So I reckon all of yall have/have had the same issues?

btw, to that one guy, that's rather gross. and the other, nice name. Cliff Burton's my current idol
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And as you get older, it does get to be more of a problem as a musician, which is why you see Claypool wearing a brace at times. Even with the best technique, over time there is a bit of strain and wear when you play for several decades.

To the TS, you probably don't have CTS, but some strain. Lay off and rest your hands for a few days and it should be OK. If not, just get it checked out by a medical professional.
#7
I could always do this with no problem?

From early in my slapping though, I utilized the double thump. So my triplet thing goes, down up down pop. Maybe thats why it was easy to learn and doesnt hurt.
#8
Yeah I figured some rest would do the trick. But I was just seeing if it was common amongst other bass playing individuals

to tubatom868686: You're talking about the Victor Wooten double-thump, right?
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Yeah I figured some rest would do the trick. But I was just seeing if it was common amongst other bass playing individuals

to tubatom868686: You're talking about the Victor Wooten double-thump, right?


Yea. I use it a lot, and its really comfortable once you get the hang of it. Its a bit daunting to try to re learn something you have so en grained in your brain and muscles, but it was a great choice. I have better stamina and no pain while slapping, even while doing the triplet things were talking about (there called single stroke 4's in the drumming world, so maybe thats what we should say for this thread?)
#10
yeah I've tried briefly to get victor's technique, but it just doesn't give me the agressive funk-a-liciousness I crave. and it's freakin annoying and hard to incorporate lol. My dream technique is the finger speed of Cliff Burton, the picking style of Matt Freeman(I think, guy from Rancid?), and the all out speed slap of Flea and Claypool. I've been playing for only two-three years, so I'm still ripe I spose.
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#11
It can be plenty aggressive if youve worked with it for a while. And technically, youll be faster with it then youll ever be with a flea style slap. Since your playing twice as many notes with the same amount of motion, no matter how fast you slap normally, youll always be able to slap twice as fast with a double thump
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#13
If it's carpal tunnel, you will likely start waking up in the middle of the night with pain, and feel numbness in your hand frequently.

However, if it feels like a muslce ache but sharper, it might be tendonitis, which is a lot easier to treat. Go see your doc, and in the meantime, take a BREAK!
#14
At OP, it's probably not carpel tunnel, i'd say strain from soreness or you've been binging (playing heaps and then not at all).
And with your triplet thing, i'd say a fifth of all bass players can do that.

Also, i play piano, bass and guitar i already have to wear a brace if it gets to bad, doc says if i continue at the rate i was going, i'd have carpel by the time i was in my 20's. I'm 14.
#16
Carpel tunnel is easy to self-diagnose even at early stages.

We're talking a little bit of a dull ache for.. most parts of the day. If you feel like you're getting nerve spazms (at my very worst, when I adjusted where my watch sat on my right wrist, my left hand felt like it got an electric shock) then you should consult a doctor, start doing stretches in your hands frequently and seriously recosider your technique.

If it just feels strained, it's your muscles building up.
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#17
Dude.
Dude.
I just listened to your songs. You are crooked as hell. You're off in 95% of times. And your band sounds like it started out yesterday.

And yet you claim to have be slappin like a pro?

Practice for some odd 10 years, and then learn a song, by, say, Les Claypool. You'll be one of thousands 40 year old who didn't achieve anything in this life, besides a level 50 warcraft character and some decent, but totally undemanded bass skills.

Until then - first get your fingerstyle straight, then learn some BASIC slapping, only then should you transition to more complex things.
#21
Not to be a dick, but I have to agree with Bassilo on the timing issues. I listened to the songs on your myspace and although I liked some of the basic riffs, it would do you guys some good to practice with a metronome. It might be worth is to get the basics down before moving on to more advanced techniques. I did quite enjoy the "borrowing" of Claypool's vocal style for Iceberg though.
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Dude.
Dude.
I just listened to your songs. You are crooked as hell. You're off in 95% of times. And your band sounds like it started out yesterday.

And yet you claim to have be slappin like a pro?

Practice for some odd 10 years, and then learn a song, by, say, Les Claypool. You'll be one of thousands 40 year old who didn't achieve anything in this life, besides a level 50 warcraft character and some decent, but totally undemanded bass skills.

Until then - first get your fingerstyle straight, then learn some BASIC slapping, only then should you transition to more complex things.


Truth be told man, can't win with out know the fundamentals.
Sometimes you gotta call it like it is. And Owentheobiwan don't let this get you down, you now know what to work on and to get to where you wanna go. So go put some practice man and reach your goals.
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#23
dang yall are hard on me lol. those songs are really old recordings, back when did just start yesterday lol. But I'm(my band too) way better then those recordings give justice. But I'll get some recordings of just me playing up eventually. And yall need to give me just a "
little" bit of a break. To tell the truth, I haven't heard anyone around my area as good as me. That's being completely honest, I swear I'm not starting a flame war lol
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The Myspace link only had full band clips - not him solo, demonstrating the technique he just learned.
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dang yall are hard on me lol. those songs are really old recordings, back when did just start yesterday lol. But I'm(my band too) way better then those recordings give justice. But I'll get some recordings of just me playing up eventually. And yall need to give me just a "
little" bit of a break. To tell the truth, I haven't heard anyone around my area as good as me. That's being completely honest, I swear I'm not starting a flame war lol

Not trying to give you a bad time. I'd love to be proven wrong. Y'all come back now (with some sound clips) y'hear!
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#27
I greatly appreciate the courteousy from the UG community. I was expecting to come back to the computer to see angry ranting UG members. I was proven wrong too! But I will definately get some clips of me soon, as well as more recent band recordings on the myspace. Much love
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#28
Pretty much with everyone else, use a metronome, learn your basics before attempting more advanced techniques. And your slap sounds funny.
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I greatly appreciate the courteousy from the UG community. I was expecting to come back to the computer to see angry ranting UG members. I was proven wrong too! But I will definately get some clips of me soon, as well as more recent band recordings on the myspace. Much love


Thats the good thing about us bassists, everyone I've seen on here seems to be very nice and have no problem helping other people out. Maybe if you posted a similar thing in the guitar section you would have gotten to see the angry ranting from UG members haha.
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#30
I had this same problem when I first starting doing my double-slap (Thumb and pinky) it put a terrible strain on my wrist, so I had to stop arm curls every night and the problem cleared up.

In my case it was one or another causing wrist pain, and I dumped the one I deamed not neccesary.
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#32
aguacateojos - there are also some old ass youtube vids. Just follow the link, or search Warm Days. Or vids by this dude http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCPEPFeBsH0. And I would never bother recording meself playing. Sorry, but that's just plain whack. I don't need no nods of approval. There are TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONS of such dudes on youtube. No band, no social skills, just good bass playing and porn on the background.

owentheobiwan - sorry if I sounded harsh there, I didn't meen nothing by it. But you HAVE to practive timing first. When you think you got it right - practice some wahcky timing songs. Like 3/4 or whatever.
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#33
Um, what? I have no idea why you posted that link. There seems to have been some confusion, I was looking for a clip from the thread starter.