#1
hey guys i was wondering if one of these would be any good for some of the stuff i play. i play stuff like the racounteurs, beck, modest mouse, muse and other stuff like that. if it can play primus, that would be a bonus, but my guess is that is a no. i do play live every sunday for church through an ampeg, so that is important too. i allready have a p bass, and its good, but not quite versitle enough. and for the record, i do not like jazz basses too much, and yes i use a mexican standard 5 string one every monday so i do know how they sound and feel. please do not send 50 pages of crap saying epiphones suck, or get a different bass. ive seen too many forums like that. thank you for your time.
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#2
one huge thing is that i overdrive and use fuzz a lot and i also play a lot of CAKE. my amp is a swr la series 12 180 watt. i have no idea when it was made or where
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Hang on. You refuse to let us confirm what other forums say? Really, Epiphone basses are pretty poor for most applications. The EB-3 is one of their worst models. I would strongly advise against it. Of course, if you have a chance to extensively playtest a gibson/epiphone bass and still love it, nothing will quite sound like it. However, for a lot of other people, they are muddy and undefined.

Do not expect to be cutting through the mix, and don't expect much clarity. They also neckdive pretty badly.

As far as I know, the sound of that type of rock is going to be dominated by jazz and precision style basses. Muse's bassist used a Rickenbacker occasionally, but he uses a jazz style bass most of the time.
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#4
i really want a rick, but they are too expencive. i also quite like the sound of the muddyness, for the CAKE stuff, but also would like to have a bass that does more than that.
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#5
Alot of those bands use P-basses. The EB-3 just isn't a very good bass. It's not versatile at all, so having it do more than the muddy thing is out. If a bunch of other forums all say the same thing, take the hint.

EDIT: Wait, so you like the very distinct, clear, trebly tone of a Ric', but you want a muddy tone? You must want a really versatile bass.
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#6
get a p bass, and put a mudbucker in the neck. like what billl sheehan did.



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#7
i already have a p bass and im bored of it. i need something different, and this is different. what would u suggest for me to try out.
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Hang on. You refuse to let us confirm what other forums say? Really, Epiphone basses are pretty poor for most applications. The EB-3 is one of their worst models. I would strongly advise against it. Of course, if you have a chance to extensively playtest a gibson/epiphone bass and still love it, nothing will quite sound like it. However, for a lot of other people, they are muddy and undefined.

Do not expect to be cutting through the mix, and don't expect much clarity. They also neckdive pretty badly.

As far as I know, the sound of that type of rock is going to be dominated by jazz and precision style basses. Muse's bassist used a Rickenbacker occasionally, but he uses a jazz style bass most of the time.


i agree with everything jack has said, the EB3 is muddy and undefined and has very poor balance. That being said alt rock is such a big pigeon hole that there's no good bass specifically for it, just a good bass for you so if the EB3 is a good bass for you then go for it and i recommend you go play one because they are love or hate instruments. Jack Bruce of Cream used a gibson SG bass and it didn't hurt his tone or playing.

also a quick side note Chris Wolstenholme of Muse also used a Warwick Streamer STD on occasions, it appears in the video for Newborn and Matt is using a normal tele DUN DUN DUHHHHNNN!!!
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#9
^^The P with a mudbucker is actually a really good idea.
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#10
im actually liking the p with the mudbucker too, but i want something different than a p bass, ive got one thats pretty good (even though its a squier) already. whats a good bass BESIDES the jazz, for the music i play.
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im actually liking the p with the mudbucker too, but i want something different than a p bass, ive got one thats pretty good (even though its a squier) already. whats a good bass BESIDES the jazz, for the music i play.


what about a schecter? that isnt a fender.

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#12
im not into schecters. the only music i play thats good on those is primus, and there is no way my band would play primus. im not so into active basses, but i wont shoo them away without concideration
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#13
rickenbacker copies are quite readily available if you're patient and while they don't sound exactly like rics they tend to have a tone all to themselves
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#14
ive spent 4ever trying to track down a rick copy, and when i find 1, they are usually poop or too much for me.
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#15
i picked one up just over a week ago for just under £400, it's fantastic and i'd go as far as to say it doesn't sound far off from a rick 4003
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#16
but what is that in american dollars?????
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#17
ok thats like 600 bucks right???? im lookin to spend mabie 350 to 400
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if you want to go really alternative in your tone you should scour ebay for vintage harmonys, tiescos and kays. you should be able to get a working one (not perfect condition just usable) for about that price
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i really want a rick, but they are too expencive. i also quite like the sound of the muddyness, for the CAKE stuff, but also would like to have a bass that does more than that.


really? The basslines in CAKE music always seemed pretty punchy to me.

Anyway, if you want something versatile but don't want a jazz, at that price range you're really just left with dual soapbars, like the Peavey Millenium AC BXP.
Or, what about basses with two single coils that aren't the jazz? Or something with a P/J setup (or would that be too close to your current P bass)?
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Schecters are pretty versatile, I wouldn't be so quick to disregard them. As for other brands Warwick (Rockbass of course), Traben, ESP, Ibanez, OLP, Peavey, Yamaha, etc. There's plenty of stuff out there, you just gotta look.
#21
ATK? get an Ibanez ATK, that gets a really sweet punch, without the precisions inherent thump or the jazz basses incessant growl. it can get a tone like Chris Wolstenholme's Pedulla (not too exact of course, but with enough fuzz on it really is close enough), it can get a really good Stingray style sound too, which may just be enough.
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ATK? get an Ibanez ATK, that gets a really sweet punch, without the precisions inherent thump or the jazz basses incessant growl. it can get a tone like Chris Wolstenholme's Pedulla (not too exact of course, but with enough fuzz on it really is close enough), it can get a really good Stingray style sound too, which may just be enough.


I agree totally, the bass is active I think but the 3-way toggle on it is very versatile, but straight forward at the same time, it's like an EB-3 but better in every way. The ATK is everything.
#23
i was looking at an atk bass one day at guitar center, and it was amazing, but i never bothered to look at the name. i rembember it had the punch i like, but also did the muddy thing also, so it was perfect for me. i think i will try to pick up one of those, or maybe this danelectro bass i played. that danelectro was very nice also
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#24
i love my Eb3, the neckdive pisses me off though,
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i was looking at an atk bass one day at guitar center, and it was amazing, but i never bothered to look at the name. i rembember it had the punch i like, but also did the muddy thing also, so it was perfect for me. i think i will try to pick up one of those, or maybe this danelectro bass i played. that danelectro was very nice also

plus, it is way more versatile than the EB-3, something you wanted in that first post.
those Dano's are great too.
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#26
Why not get a Squier T-Bass? It has all the mud you could dream (i.e. have nightmares) of, plus it balances and plays like a real bass should and does.
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