#1
Ok, this is a question on harmony.

I was trying to learn harmony from the article "Guitar Harmony"

but one of the things it had confused me.


Lets say guitar 1 plays this riff

E----------------------------
B----------------------------
G----------------------------
D----------------------------
A-----7----8-----10----8-7~--
E--0-0--0-0--0-0---0-0-------


ok all good, the notes are E-F-G, not including the pedal tone, but that's also E.


If we harmonize the first riff we used in 3rd's, this is what we would get:

E--------------------------
B--------------------------
G--------------------------
D----5----7-----8----7-5~--
A--------------------------
E-0-0--0-0--0-0---0-0------


WTF?

Since the notes are E-F-G, and its harmonized in 3rds, shouldnt the harmony be G#-A-B?

I mean, that is a major third above each,

E-F#-G#
F-G-A
G-A-B.

So shouldnt the harmony go

E--------------------------
B--------------------------
G--------------------------
D----6----7-----9----7-9~--
A--------------------------
E-0-0--0-0--0-0---0-0------


Or am i missing something?
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#2
Each note in a scale has a different third, for example in E minor, it goes Minor, Minor, Major, Minor, Minor, Major, Major, with the last note being an octave of E.. Of course thats still minor though.

Also, it doesn't sound like you're ready for harmony, look up The Crusades article on this website, read it deeply, very deeply.
#3
Those riffs aren't in E major or minor, find another place to get your lessons.
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#4
Bump...

and also,
i forgot about the harmony thing for a major scale.

it all makes sense now, i just forgot the sequence.

its

Major-Minor-Minor-Major-Major-Dim right?

same as pattern of diatonic triads of any major scale, just used to harmonize in 3rds, correct?
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i've always found pop to be harder to play than metal... especially shred metal... it's just really fast tremolo picking and the occasional palm mute... and the only chords you have to worry about are power chords...
#5
Major - Minor - Minor - Major - Major - Minor - Diminished, you missed the 6th degree.
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#6
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Bump...

and also,
i forgot about the harmony thing for a major scale.

it all makes sense now, i just forgot the sequence.

its

Major-Minor-Minor-Major-Major-Dim right?

same as pattern of diatonic triads of any major scale, just used to harmonize in 3rds, correct?

You missed minor in between major and diminished.
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Major - Minor - Minor - Major - Major - Minor - Diminished, you missed the 6th degree.

oh yeah, sorry.

but i was just stating that to say that i forgot all about the pattern.

but that is right, correct?
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i've always found pop to be harder to play than metal... especially shred metal... it's just really fast tremolo picking and the occasional palm mute... and the only chords you have to worry about are power chords...
#9
so what is that E F G to G A B, is this alwas referred to as harmonizing? Because I've noticed this pattern for a while and didn't know the theory behind it. Also can you harmonized by 2nds 4ths 5ths 6ths or 7ths?
Last edited by rebel624 at Mar 26, 2009,
#10
Also can you harmonized by 2nds 4ths 5ths 6ths or 7ths?


Of course. Didn't you try this?

Or am i missing something?


Yes, one small detail. You're moving up a major third from each note to harmonise. Try moving up a third WITHIN the key. So, in this case we'd be thinking more along the lines of

EFG
+ harmony
GAB

Although many bands do harmonize things with straight major thirds and it can sound damn cool on occasion.

Reading the thread, sorry TS, you've already realised this. Oopsie!