What hardcore bands influenced the New York death metal scene?

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What hardcore bands influenced the sound (especially those breakdowns or slams) in the New York death metal bands? Bands like: Suffocation, Dying Fetus, Pyrexia, Internal Bleeding, etc...
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+1 for back-tracking through thrash's glory days! thats where its at for learning were hardcore met metal
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I still don't get it...
how can people call some kind of metal ''hardcore''?
Hardcore was punk dudes!
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I still don't get it...
how can people call some kind of metal ''hardcore''?
Hardcore was punk dudes!


yeah it was, and it got fused with metal during the 80s in various ways, and created REAL metalcore, but when the eyeliner and black-tight-pants guys took the metalcore tag, real metalcore became known as hardcore
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Edit: I could say the same to the TS.

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I was saying that because he asked about it in here.
#10
Considering people actually listen to death metal in here, I'd say this would be the place to ask. Anyway, it would differ from band to band, but a few bands Suffocation were influenced by were Cro-mags, Minor Threat, Carnivore, and D.R.I.
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I was saying that because he asked about it in here.



But he's asking for metal bands?
#14
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But he's asking for metal bands?

He's' asking for hardcore punk bands that influenced death metal bands.
Then there's this band called Slice The Cake...

Bunch of faggots putting random riffs together and calling it "progressive" deathcore.
Stupid name.
Probably picked "for teh lulz"

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Cro-Mags are a big one. Thrashcore and crossover thrash in general tended to be a big influence on NYDM. Mostly look at NYHC and other early 'beatdown' hardcore/moshcore.

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I've been listening to some of those hardcore bands, but I don't see those kind of breakdowns and slams I hear Suffocation and Dying Fetus use?
#27
That's cause those breakdowns CAME from Suffocation and Dying Fetus.
It's ironic how all the metal kids stand their screaming "FUCK CORE AND IT'S STUPID BREAKDOWNS!" when real hardcore has barely any breakdowns and "tr00" metal has shitloads.
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I was just curious because I wonder where Suffocation/Dying Fetus and similar bands got their ideas of creating those breakdowns/slams because I keep hearing that its from hardcore bands but barely any of the hardore bands used them?
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That's cause those breakdowns CAME from Suffocation and Dying Fetus.
It's ironic how all the metal kids stand their screaming "FUCK CORE AND IT'S STUPID BREAKDOWNS!" when real hardcore has barely any breakdowns and "tr00" metal has shitloads.

To be fair, that's only the really stupid ones.
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That's cause those breakdowns CAME from Suffocation and Dying Fetus.
It's ironic how all the metal kids stand their screaming "FUCK CORE AND IT'S STUPID BREAKDOWNS!" when real hardcore has barely any breakdowns and "tr00" metal has shitloads.

Exactly. And the original usage of breakdown wasn't even close to chugging.
#31
Ok, so I keep on hearing that Suffocation and Dying Getus get a lot of their influences from hardcore bands, but which ones though? Because when I hear all those slams/breakdowns in their songs, I hear other people say it was from hardcore and not so much of metal?
#33
Hardcore music has gone a long way compared to modern sounding Hardcore. First it was actually punk (I.E. Minor Threat), then it was about being a br00tal fighter (I.E. Throwdown), and now happy hardcore (I.E. scene kids)? Teh fk?
#34
Minor Threat to Throwdown to happy hardcore?

You really don't have a clue what happy hardcore is.
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Hardcore music has gone a long way compared to modern sounding Hardcore. First it was actually punk (I.E. Minor Threat), then it was about being a br00tal fighter (I.E. Throwdown), and now happy hardcore (I.E. scene kids)? Teh fk?


What are you *head explodes*

EDIT: So is this guy trying to piss of metalheads, corefans, and ravers?
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Minor Threat to Throwdown to happy hardcore?

You really don't have a clue what happy hardcore is.


Do I want to know? I can figure it's a bunch of pseudosexual boys (gender questionable, really) running around in female jeans with long straightened hair covering their eyes, spinning their arms in circular motions.
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Do I want to know? I can figure it's a bunch of pseudosexual boys (gender questionable, really) running around in female jeans with long straightened hair covering their eyes, spinning their arms in circular motions.


Because you're ignorant, right?
#39
Happy Hardcore is dreadful rave that my little sister seem to take pleasure in blasting out whenever I have to visit the family.

So you're plainly well off the mark there, akin to a darts player whos just had his drink spiked.
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