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#1
When it comes to buying CDs versus downloading.. if you actually like the band enough of course...

Price?
More songs?
Video/DVD stuff?
Live tracks?
#2
None of them. I just like having something physical, I.E.: The actual CD/record/tape, the booklet, the lyrics, etc.
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#3
Meh for me it's price, I don't have a job so it's really hard for me to buy cd's.



EDIT: What messiah said.
#4
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None of them. I just like having something physical, I.E.: The actual CD/record/tape, the booklet, the lyrics, etc.

This, pretty much.

Same reason that I'd buy vinyls (though I haven't been able to get any that I want), even though I lack a turntable. Also, having the cover art with me is always great.
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None of them. I just like having something physical, I.E.: The actual CD/record/tape, the booklet, the lyrics, etc.


This.
Also it just feels right to buy the music.
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#6
There is no versus. I only download things licensed by the bands themselves, out of print demos etc.

Its cool having something tangible with artwork and lyrics, and plus - before a retard tries to convince me otherwise - cd sales do affect the success of the band for gigs, further contracts, etc.
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#7
I try to actually buy the CD if I can find it, but since I'm too lazy to order online if I can't find it in a store, I download most of my stuff.
#8
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None of them. I just like having something physical, I.E.: The actual CD/record/tape, the booklet, the lyrics, etc.



Thats awesome, its just getting harder and harder these days to get people to actually buy CDs because of the ease of downloading.
#9
Downloading is absolute bollocks.

click, click, wait.....click.

Yeah im a diehard fan of this band now.
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#10


Buying is what makes music fun.

No, scratch that, trading is. But, you have to buy to trade.

Also, the whole physical copy of a piece of art is pretty wicked.
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#12
People who don't buy CDs at all (don't see a point in buying CDs) aren't real music fans. I still download quite a bit, but that is because

1. I don't have a lot of money

2. No CD stores near here, I have to order everything and without a credit card I can't do this very often.

That said, I do still try to get CDs as often as possible.
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People who don't buy CDs at all (don't see a point in buying CDs) aren't real music fans. I still download quite a bit, but that is because

1. I don't have a lot of money

2. No CD stores near here, I have to order everything and without a credit card I can't do this very often.

That said, I do still try to get CDs as often as possible.


This.
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People who don't buy CDs at all (don't see a point in buying CDs) aren't real music fans. .


This.


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#16
I see the point of buying them, but I am dirt poor, and CDs are (usually) quite overpriced ($18 per disc, sup).

If I were to, I'd never buy from major record companies; only the small, independent ones.

The bit about "people who don't buy CDs aren't real music fans" doesn't make any sense, seeing as the music is the same no matter how you get it (given the digital copy is a transparent rip, lossless or otherwise hifi mp3), unless you are emphasizing the "fans" bit. But a fan of a band is also as likely to buy various merch and/or go to concerts, so being a "fan" is not characterized merely by buying CDs.
#18
Pretty much ALL of my CD's are secondhand or were on sale. I would buy CDs if it weren't so expensive. I don't have paypal so I can't exactly purchase off the internet. So downloading seems to be my only option.
#19
But why buy merchandise and not cds? Surely when yer bitchin about money, the merch costs more than cds, right?
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#20
Well, clothes are a necessity. Since you're gonna buy a shirt anyway, why not buy one from your favourite band.
#21
I can't buy CDs since they (most of the extreme metal ones) are not available here, but when I buy them(local bands, classic metal bands etc.) I normally buy them just to have a physical copy and the lyrics booklet and obviously, to support the band.
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#22
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But why buy merchandise and not cds? Surely when yer bitchin about money, the merch costs more than cds, right?

Yes, but merch money goes to the band.
CD money goes to everyone in between.
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I'm pretty much a downloader. I've got over 100gb of downloaded music, but if something REALLY grabs me, I pretty much go and buy it. I've got close to 100 cds now (I know, not that much, but still not bad) and all of them are bands that I truly respect and want to support.

Buying a $30 CD through stores results in the band getting about $1/2 if their lucky.
Buying a $30 shirt from a band at a show, or even online results in the band getting a huge percentage of the money back into their funds.
#23
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When it comes to buying CDs versus downloading.. if you actually like the band enough of course...

Price?
More songs?
Video/DVD stuff?
Live tracks?
First things first: You guys are awesome live; saw you with Cannibal Corpse at the Croation Cultural Center a while ago.

Secondly: None of those really makes a difference to me...truth be told, most of the time I'll go out of my way to AVOID cd's that have 'bonus live tracks'. They piss me off. Dunno why, that's just me. I've just always liked live cd's and studio cd's as two very seperate things.

I only ever download to preview music. I download an album, listen to it for a week...if at the end of the week I still like the album, I'll go out and buy it. If I don't like it enough to buy it, I'll delete it. The reason I buy albums is because I like having something tangible, I like supporting good bands, and I like having something to play in my car stereo (HATE playing CD-R's, lol...). And last but certainly not least, I love having the artwork/lyrics.
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#24
CD's are better than downloads hands down. Only problem is, I find it so hard to find CD's on the internet that I can buy. The 'Buying Metal on the Internet' thread can only take me so far...



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#25
I buy CDs when I can but it's nearly impossible for me to find what I want and I have no way to order online.
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#26
I think I would much rather spend my money on a nice band shirt or tour wallpaper.

That said, I can't stand most metal band shirt designs. Really not in to the whole multi-color, ton-o-details, fire-skulls-weapons-METAL!!!! kind of shirts that are usually found. So yeah, CD's it is, usually.


Why buy? It's fun having a CD of a band you like. I'd only buy CD's and not download at all if it was realistic for me.
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#27
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People who don't buy CDs at all (don't see a point in buying CDs) aren't real music fans.


That's a pretty retarded statement.

I never buy CDs. If I did, they would all have to be ordered from overseas over the internet at ridiculous prices due to my country's crappy exchange rate. However I STILL buy merch - also only ordered online from halfway across the world. I would go to every live show of a band I liked that I got the chance to, but since we never get live shows here that doesn't make a difference.

So basically, the band loses nothing from my downloading their music, but does get some extra cash from my merch money, that that would have never come in if I didn't download in the first place.
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#28
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Downloading is absolute bollocks.

click, click, wait.....click.

Yeah im a diehard fan of this band now.

I honestly wouldn't expect such singlemindedness from someone such as yourself.

I mean yeah, OK, it's fair enough you don't like downloading yourself, diffr'nt strokes and all that, but to completely fob it off and make an off the wall judgement regarding it is a bit off the mark.

Par example.

I downloaded pretty much all of Dan Swano's discography. Edge of Sanity, Nightingale, Moontower, Pan.Thy.Monium etc. And I loved the music, I became quite the Swano fanboy, fuck, I still am.

Now, to let that be and still whore him out without spending a damn penny would be majorly hypocritical of me. But if it wasn't for me downloading all of his stuff, I wouldn't have forked out over 200 euros clearing out the Wacken Black Mark stall of Swano releases/merch.

If it wasn't for me downloading Devin Townsend's discography I wouldn't have spend the approx. £130 on his CDs.

If I didn't download the several Dream Theater albums I poached Mr Petrucci's manly physique may have had to miss out on the fraction of the approx £150 I spent on their CDs/DVDs that he would have spent on dumbells the size of Jupiter.

If I morally decided against downloading Death's discography Mr Schuldiner's dear mother would have missed out on the small portion of the £70-odd i forked out for all of Chuck's Material. (Except Symbolic, could never find the fucker anywhere for a reasonable price).

And if I didn't right click on my mate's name on Soulseek and browsed him in order to download Lykathea Aflame's Elvenefris I wouldn't have hunted high and low to find that little bastard for the bargain price of £10.


Get my drift?

Downloading and giving back nothing is not on, I agree. But it is far from 'bollocks' as you so eloquently put it.
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#29
+1 Dyers

My opinion exactly. I never would have gotten into most of the bands I like if it wasn't for downloading.
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I'd just like to have your new cd
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Yes, but the difference is that you did buy the cds after, my comment was aimed at people who just horse everything onto a hard drive and then namedrop said bands at any opportunity.

You said it yourself, to label yourself a fanatic of a band or artist and not be arsed paying money for their art would be hypocrisy. And thats what I was getting at, people who call themselves fans but cant even hand over €10 or so for a full-length album.

I am a bit harsh on the subject of downloading, but meh thats just how I feel on the subject. Its a sign of the lazy times we live in.
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#32
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That said, I can't stand most metal band shirt designs. Really not in to the whole multi-color, ton-o-details, fire-skulls-weapons-METAL!!!! kind of shirts that are usually found. So yeah, CD's it is, usually.
This pisses me off as well. I hate how there's skulls on a lot of metal bands t-shirts, it's really repetitive and boring. I usually opt for the album cover on my t-shirts.

More on topic: I have about 30 CDs so most of my music is downloaded. Let truth be told I just can't afford to be buying CDs. I'd rather have nice t-shirt, a ticket to see a band live, or a nice new pedal, amp or guitar than a CD; seems like a much better use of my money. One day though I vow to myself I will spend an entire pay check on CDs.
#33
I download a lot of music, but there's absoluetly no way I could afford to buy even half of what I download.

I justify my downloading by going to see any band who's album I have dowloaded if they're playing in my area, whether I like them or not. If I have spare cash then I will go buy CDs I've downloaded but I'd prefer to spend that money on merch at gigs where I know the band will get more of my money.
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#35
Doubt it.

Low Supply + High Demand = High Prices
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#36
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But why buy merchandise and not cds? Surely when yer bitchin about money, the merch costs more than cds, right?

Shows are the only time my parents give me money, also, most of the shows i go to the shirts are $5-$12. And the money goes straight to the band.
#37
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This pisses me off as well. I hate how there's skulls on a lot of metal bands t-shirts, it's really repetitive and boring. I usually opt for the album cover on my t-shirts.

Way to miss the point...
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#38
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Yes, but merch money goes to the band.
CD money goes to everyone in between.
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I'm pretty much a downloader. I've got over 100gb of downloaded music, but if something REALLY grabs me, I pretty much go and buy it. I've got close to 100 cds now (I know, not that much, but still not bad) and all of them are bands that I truly respect and want to support.

Buying a $30 CD through stores results in the band getting about $1/2 if their lucky.
Buying a $30 shirt from a band at a show, or even online results in the band getting a huge percentage of the money back into their funds.

100 cds not much? I have less than 20. Beat that. Anyway, I would love to buy more CDs, but as said before, $18-$22 for a cd is rediculous. I don't have that money.
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#39
I work a measly 20 hours per week, go to college full-time, yet somehow manage to shell out approximately $200 every month on CD's. Fact is, if you really want something, you can find a way to buy it. And if you can't, then you have no right to download without intention of purchasing. CD's are no different than anything else, and too many people have a false notion that if they can't afford it, then they can just steal it because it's been made so easy for them to do so.
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#40
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I wish i could buy CDs but i always end up buying shirts and going to shows instead


Pretty much this, only I buy more vinyls and tapes than I do CD's.
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