Sanity-Screams
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i need an amp for death metal tone...nile, necrophagist, severed savior, katatonia....price range $0-1000

the V3 will remain on my list, but the mesa single rec is questionable...

i know the dual rectifier can get a good death metal tone, hows the single sound?

what is a reasonable price for a single rec new?

does anyone know about this mark 5? is it going to cost alot?...would a mark 4 or 3 be in my price range used?
guitarsftw
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#2
mark 5 will cost quite a bit

i'd go for the v3, it is more powerful, and, from reviews i've seen/read, it has real good tone
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i'd say the mk 4 might be in your range once the 5 comes out.
the 5 will be much more than 1000. I would say the single could make it, but you're more than likely going to have to boost it.
I would look used for a VHT or ENGL. you should be able to find a dual rec head used for 1000 though. or find a DC-5, which is similar to the recs.
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no Versus threads.

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I heard the Mark V is going to cost about $2000 for the head. You probably will need to increase your budget for a Mark IV. But if the Mark V is as good as it's supposed to be, you'll get lucky because there will be a lot people selling their Mark IVs.
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Quote by guitarsftw
mark 5 will cost quite a bit

i'd go for the v3, it is more powerful, and, from reviews i've seen/read, it has real good tone


im probly goinna get the v3 and try it out, if i dont like it i'll rty out a single rec (or used dual), if i dont like the rectifier i'll get a 6505, if i dont like it i'll look for an engl.

im tired of looking at these $2000+ amps that i'll never be able to afford
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Quote by nivlarama
no Versus threads.

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You obviously have no idea what that rule is for.

That rule is to prevent threads which debate things like Fender vs. Gibson, not "which amp should I look at" threads. If that was the case, there would be basically no reason for this forum, as people could gather no information here.
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#8
You should look into ENGL Screamer combo. Would work pretty well for Death metal. That or an Ampeg VH-140c
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Quote by Highwaytohell
You should look into ENGL Screamer combo. Would work pretty well for Death metal. That or an Ampeg VH-140c


if i get any engl it'll be a fireball or the new fireball (i heard its got alot more improvments)
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i have the v3...its great, but very fizzy at highest gain settings so get an od

alternatives vht deliverance bugera 333xl 6505 (also have this with the right speaker and jj tubes probably bugera or 6505 most fitting for you. Wouldnt get the original fireball or powerball at all.
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just get the v3...mesa killer imo
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#13
Why the heck would you report the TS for this??? Versus? Why does it matter?? Do you not want people to share experiences/opinions on pertinent matters??

As long as people make informed intelligent cases for or against something what is the problem?


Anyway, the V3 I believe has a better clean channel, probably more versatile and has the ability to use 6l6 and el84 tubes.

I vote V3
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Quote by Harvesterofsrrw
just get the v3...mesa killer imo


The V3 sounds nothing like a Mesa.
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single rectifer is the same as dual rectifier but only 50 watts instead of 100 and trust me, you will not need more than 50 watts.

The V3 on the other hand is an awesome amp. Really versatile. I would recomend it because if you decide to branch out and play other styles, because it'll cover pretty much any style. Also takes pedals really well, whereas the recto is more than a one trick pony
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Quote by drac-taclar
single rectifer is the same as dual rectifier but only 50 watts instead of 100 and trust me, you will not need more than 50 watts.

The V3 on the other hand is an awesome amp. Really versatile. I would recomend it because if you decide to branch out and play other styles, because it'll cover pretty much any style. Also takes pedals really well, whereas the recto is more than a one trick pony


50 watts is plenty loud for any application (and even if there were extremes, mic-ing the cab can easily compensate). 100 is truly too much valve amplifier for the majority of us out there.

Lower wattage, better break-up, better sound because you are really cranking that section at a much lower bar.

Put it into perspective, I'll take my 15/7.5 watt Night Train over my AC30 any day because it's so much easier to get all those saturated and pre-break up tones. Trust me...even 15 watts is plenty loud.
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#17
Following you again unitedkid!!! The second thread now you got in before me! Not stalking though!

Personally I would take the V3. Way nicer cleans and more versatile.

Alternatively, you could check out a few Engls, Dr Z (used), Randall (the one with the modules - can't remember RM100 or something), Ampeg VH140, or you could try out Laney AOR series - love those but not sure if it fits the bill for your fav bands/deathcore (what do these labels mean anyway?)

Happy hunting.
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#18
tough call, if this was a dual rec vs v3, i'll definitely go with the v3, but since its a single rec and imo better cause of the lower wattage.....
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Quote by kckyle
tough call, if this was a dual rec vs v3, i'll definitely go with the v3, but since its a single rec and imo better cause of the lower wattage.....


Someone doesn't know that the V3 is switchable down to 50 watts.
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#20
Quote by BeethovensBust
Someone doesn't know that the V3 is switchable down to 50 watts.


Lol yeah.

Guys, since some of you obviously dont know this. THE V3 IS SWITCHABLE BETWEEN 50 AND 100 WATTS.

Also, to the guys who said the Single Rec is just like the Dual Rec with lower wattage. O RLY? Have you ever A/Bed those amps together? If so you would know that they are not the same sounding. The gain is quite a bit different.
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Mark G
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#21
I should note that the volume difference between 50 and 100 watt is very minimal. Whats more important is the increased headroom a 100 watter has over a 50 watter.

I would personally either grab the Carvin, or go for a dual recto. Both amazing, for different people.
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