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#41
a convo i overheard. It was betweem an unsuspecting mom buying her son a Christmas present and a GC employee =(


A modeling amp like a Spider, Vyper or Cube is an excellent amp for a brand new player who has never picked up an instrument before.

You guys go to some pretty bad guitar centers, I've had nothing but positive experiences at both the Boston and Nashua, NH locations.

In fact, when I went to buy an amp two years ago (picked guitar back up after a 4-year hiatus) I was looking for a high-wattage solid state (due to misconceptions about tubes) and I told the dude I wanted to check out the MG 212 combo and he said "no you don't" and took like 30 minutes to explain tube amps to me, had me try a used plexi they had there and told me I should look for a used VK, Classic 30 or Crate V series, the same advice I got here.
And maybe we can fly away from here, surf on the debris of a broken scene...
#42
Quote by Roc8995
"This Peavey [Windsor] is like a Marshall, but better"
me: "ORLY"
"Yeah, they took a Marshall and wired it backwards"
me: "...wut"
"They put the power tubes after the preamp so it's like the preamp is always on full gain"
me: "That's, um, that's nice." *backs away slowly*

Swear to god. To this day my friend and I joke about taking our amps apart and rewiring them - backwards - for better tone.





That's classic.
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#43
Quote by Roc8995
"This Peavey [Windsor] is like a Marshall, but better"
me: "ORLY"
"Yeah, they took a Marshall and wired it backwards"
me: "...wut"
"They put the power tubes after the preamp so it's like the preamp is always on full gain"
me: "That's, um, that's nice." *backs away slowly*

Swear to god. To this day my friend and I joke about taking our amps apart and rewiring them - backwards - for better tone.



i lol'd thats seriously pathetic
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When he finally gets one it'll probably be televised like the Berlin Wall coming down.
The end of an era
#44
"Well we don't have any of these white things that fit in there but you can put a smaller one in and just glue it in" speaking about the bridge for an acoustic guitar, needless to say I got one from the ol local shop after that.
Call me Dom
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#45
An employee told me that I couldn't put an after-market Bigsby on my ES-335. I showed him....

Another employee told me that there was no such thing as a Gretsch Elliot Easton model. He said that nobodies do not get signature guitars.

God I hate Guitar Center.
#46
Quote by gald
A modeling amp like a Spider, Vyper or Cube is an excellent amp for a brand new player who has never picked up an instrument before.

You guys go to some pretty bad guitar centers, I've had nothing but positive experiences at both the Boston and Nashua, NH locations.

In fact, when I went to buy an amp two years ago (picked guitar back up after a 4-year hiatus) I was looking for a high-wattage solid state (due to misconceptions about tubes) and I told the dude I wanted to check out the MG 212 combo and he said "no you don't" and took like 30 minutes to explain tube amps to me, had me try a used plexi they had there and told me I should look for a used VK, Classic 30 or Crate V series, the same advice I got here.

The GC in Nashua is actually a great store, probably because its smaller than most other Guitar Centers. I still prefer the Music Mill in Manchester though.
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#47
Heres by best one...

So i go into one of the local guitar centers and talk to the pedal guys and ask if they have a Electro Harmonix Octave Multiplexier. They look confused but yet do there normal lets check the computer. (I've worked retail before and after about a week i know pretty much ever product we have and then some, but yet these guys cant do anything without checking the computer.) So he comes back 5 minutes later and say's they do not but they can special order it. I state no that is ok i've had bad experiances with your stores already, twice i have not gotten my products in a timely manner or not at all. And he said what happened so i told him. When I first started out buying guitar stuff. I Ordered a fish and chips pedal and it was suppossed to be in a week later but never showed so I purcahsed the m108 instead. 2 months later they inform me my fish and chips came in lol. Second one was my isp decimator. Dude says it will be here in about a week which im cool with. Two weeks later still no show, so i speak to the manager and they tell me well we have to place a order of 25 before we can order yours so it will take a while. Im like that was never told to me and he stated yea we have some idiots that work here nudge nudge man these people cycle out of here like every month. I was floored.... I cant believe he admited that... But anyway they had one at another guitar center down the road so i picked it up there. It was probably mine and they just shipped it to the wrong store lol

So he is like sir let me tell you we are the best Guitar center in the state knocking all the other guitar centers. So im like ok let me try out that Boss OC-3 you have. But there isnt a cable to connect it so it takes him 5 minutes to find a cable. So plug it in and the cable is busted, so im like um this doesnt work and he looks at me crazy.. Im like can your hear the popping and hum. So he gets me another cable and i test out the OC-3 and it didnt quite do it for me. So ask the number one worst question you can ask, well do know of any other good octave pedals. He was stumped for about 10 minutes then he started rattling off stuff and so I had to correct him on what i was orginally looking for and finally he came back with a Voodoo labs pedal and asked which amp i wanted to test it on since I really didnt think the cube the oc-3 was plugged in was really up to snuff lol. I said a Valveking and he asked who made it which caught me off guard but hey he is in accessories so i cant knock him to hard. So i stated Peavey and 10 minutes pass and he isnt to be found so i walk around the store over to the valvekings and he sees me from a distance and states ohh there they are you found them. Now this isnt a walmart by any means i can walk the whole store and see everything in like 30 seconds tops. So im like yea i found them and then starts to setup the pedal and he is adjusting all the settings on the amp for like 2 minutes. So he flicks the switch and im have my hand pressed against the strings right when i remove them the thing lgoes off and is ungodly loud so i immediatly put my hands over the strings again and its still screaming. I'm in my normal postion right hand palm muted and left hand muting the strings. So I cant turn it off or turn down my volume knob because if its this loud mute I hate to see how loud it is with my hands off it. So Immediatly tell the dude to turn it offand he is freaking out cant find what to hit to turn it off. So i move him out the way and quickly hit the standby switch. Im like good god man what did you have the volume at....................

(Now the Punch line)
He looks me straight in the eyes and says man I play fenders I didnt know... LMAO what in the hell, how does playing fenders make a defference when it comes to a volume knob. He had this thing cranked to like 7 on volume, gain all the way up with volume and gain button pushed in lol on the 212 100 watt model... Even my wife who knows nothing about amps or guitars looked at him like a idiot when he said that..

So after that shining moment i sit down and make my adjustments and turn on the amp. And I start to jam and it cuts out yet again and this time im on a different gutiar and cable so im like what the hell. So he leans over and wiggles the jack and its is crazy loose so im like okie dokie im just gonna leave now... And he is like i can get you another one, im like naaaa thats cool man yall are closing in a few minutes and he is like its cool were not gonna close on you so im like seriously dude have a nice day and thanks for all the help..

This is all from supposedly the best store in the state lol....

So many great stories from these guys...
Last edited by IbanezPsycho at May 1, 2009,
#48
Quote by RizzoWashburn
The GC in Nashua is actually a great store, probably because its smaller than most other Guitar Centers. I still prefer the Music Mill in Manchester though.

Do you know about the one in north attleboro, (MA) ive considered heading out there cuz its closer to me than anyother big chain for when i buy my new amp?(local store has nothing im looking for)
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Cover your ears(or they WILL be raped) that is ****ing great


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#49
Quote by Roc8995
"This Peavey [Windsor] is like a Marshall, but better"
me: "ORLY"
"Yeah, they took a Marshall and wired it backwards"
me: "...wut"
"They put the power tubes after the preamp so it's like the preamp is always on full gain"
me: "That's, um, that's nice." *backs away slowly*

Swear to god. To this day my friend and I joke about taking our amps apart and rewiring them - backwards - for better tone.



That's great

I never really get too many dumb employees.
Just ones that think all the tone comes from your guitar
#50
Quote by Bloodshed
I need to do this backwards amp mod!!


I DID THE MOD!!!!! Now all the sound comes out of my pickups!

On topic:

I wanted some mic cables that have a cut-off switch on them. They flat out called me a liar when I told them I already had a dozen or so of them, the "pro audio" guys said there was no such thing, and that I needed an adapter and a bunch of other weird ****. I've been using these cables for about 15 years now and know they in fact do exist. So being a smart-ass, I went to the truck, got one, and brought in to show them. You would have thought i brought a freakin' unicorn in the store! I guess if it isn't on their shelves it doesn't exist. By the way, Peavey makes them, they don't carry Peavey cables. Dumbasses
I love all 5 (sold a couple) of my Carvin X-100b's.
#51
"Yeah man that spider III is a killer amp"

Unfortunately I bought it on impulse because I really needed an amp. it was cool for about a week... then I realized why everyone hates them.

I suppose the purchase was more my fault for not doing enough research before hand, but I had just recently bought my first real nice Electric (Schecter C-1 Hellraiser) and I was excited to get it up and running. I've been playing an acoustic for the entire time I've been playing a guitar, and I never really had to worry about amps until I bought the Schecter.

Needless to say the Spider is getting returned today.
#53
Well not a really bad experience but it kinda pissed me off. So I'm driving to my local guitar center and when I get there I tell them what amp I'm looking for. They say they only have the 15W and 75W not 30, so they say they have some on the way on Friday (3 weeks ago) and they take my name and number. So when Saturday arrives I just go to my local music store (turns out there the only registered Peavey dealer in the near 50M radius other than GC. And to this day guitar center has not called me back about the amps.
#54
A GC employee told me that people on the internet are intelligent and always give good advice.
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MIM Strat

Korg DTR1000
ADA MP-1
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<power amp>

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If you're EQ'd loose, you'll sound loose anyway.
Last edited by occub at May 1, 2009,
#55
Quote by occub
A GC employee told me that people on the internet are intelligent and always give good advice.


That technically can be true some of the time. It all depends where you go and who you get the advice from. Don't listen to just any idiot that doesn't know what there talking about, look around there are intelligent people with good advice out there.

Like alot of the fine people here.

But yeah thats definately not a 100% accurate statement he made.
#56
So at the Nashville guitar center, I asked "So who is really dumb enough to pay full price on a beat up demo Ibanez, or a tube amp that has 100's of hours on the tubes...........? Are you dumb or a bunch of A@$-holes?" He replied with "Most of the customers dont even think about that...... and hey this is a business not a charity." Then i said "So you ARE a@#holes!" I bought some strings and this other employee says (very stoned might I add) "so dude whats your set up." I told him, and about three minutes later he finally replies. "Sweet dude!"
I went back an hour later with a buddy of mine and he asked me THE SAME QUESTION! I asked him how he couldnt remember me. Guitar center sucks.
#57
Most of the comments in this thread revolve around the misinformation the employees peddle. Fact is, I see more of that in this forum than I get in GC. What is it with so many musicians and the whole "I know more than you do" attitude? Why is it so hard to admit when you don't know something? Most things involving musical equipment is preferential and subjective anyways.

The main reason not to shop at Guitar Center/Musician's Friend/Music123 is that they have killed off most of their competition. We need other places around in order to keep prices down and promote good customer service.
Shut Up 'n' Play Yer Guitar - Frank Zappa
#58
Quote by warmark
Most of the comments in this thread revolve around the misinformation the employees peddle. Fact is, I see more of that in this forum than I get in GC. What is it with so many musicians and the whole "I know more than you do" attitude? Why is it so hard to admit when you don't know something? Most things involving musical equipment is preferential and subjective anyways.

The main reason not to shop at Guitar Center/Musician's Friend/Music123 is that they have killed off most of their competition. We need other places around in order to keep prices down and promote good customer service.


Amen....
Epi Les Paul-APH1/Mean 90
MIM Strat

Korg DTR1000
ADA MP-1
Mesa/Boogie Quad Pre
Mesa/Boogie Midi Matrix
<power amp>

Quote by rhcp_freak
If you're EQ'd loose, you'll sound loose anyway.
#60
Quote by warmark
Most of the comments in this thread revolve around the misinformation the employees peddle. Fact is, I see more of that in this forum than I get in GC. What is it with so many musicians and the whole "I know more than you do" attitude? Why is it so hard to admit when you don't know something? Most things involving musical equipment is preferential and subjective anyways.

The main reason not to shop at Guitar Center/Musician's Friend/Music123 is that they have killed off most of their competition. We need other places around in order to keep prices down and promote good customer service.


I agree, thats why I payed $20 extra to support a local music store in tough economic times with great customer support other than GC.
#61
Quote by warmark
Most of the comments in this thread revolve around the misinformation the employees peddle. Fact is, I see more of that in this forum than I get in GC. What is it with so many musicians and the whole "I know more than you do" attitude? Why is it so hard to admit when you don't know something? Most things involving musical equipment is preferential and subjective anyways.

The main reason not to shop at Guitar Center/Musician's Friend/Music123 is that they have killed off most of their competition. We need other places around in order to keep prices down and promote good customer service.


There is a lot of misinformation on this forum, but forum members aren't getting paid to help people out. They do it of boredom/niceness/whatever. You're right about most things being subjective, but I think it's reasonable to at least expect people who are there to help potential customers as their job to be at least generally knowledgeable. Just my $0.02.

And I like supporting my local shop, too.
Feel free to call me Kyle.

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#62
There's no GC in my town, only Russo's Guitars. Those guys are AWESOME. Any one of them will know almost everything about any product in the store, demo it for you, and get out of your hair when you want to play it for yourself.

I can't imagine buying from some GC hack, given the dozens of facepalm-worthy stories I've heard about their service and their Wal-Mart method of doing business.
#63
Quote by papersun87
There's no GC in my town, only Russo's Guitars. Those guys are AWESOME. Any one of them will know almost everything about any product in the store, demo it for you, and get out of your hair when you want to play it for yourself.

I can't imagine buying from some GC hack, given the dozens of facepalm-worthy stories I've heard about their service and their Wal-Mart method of doing business.

<3 Russo's. Never had a bad experience with them.
#65
Quote by al112987
I was told that groove tubes bias themselves.


Gearz:
Squier classic vibe 50's strat, modded.
Dunlop 535q
Korg Pitchblack
Carvin X100B

Coming soon to a pedal board near you:
Analogman Sunface
Lovepedal E6
Area 51 wah
Skreddy Lunar Module
Malekko 616 Ekko
#66
This spider III is one of the best practice amps around...

I was a beginner and bought it, thankfully it was only 15w so it was only 100 bucks wasted.

I do love the spider valves though, Line 6 modeling is good. Sure, it may not be the best sounding tube amp for the price, but its a step up from SS and it sounds miles better than the Spider IIIs.

I also once asked what pickups would they recommend for my epi sg(eventually I will put better pickups in)for playing alternative, grunge, modern rock, and classic rock. He told me about EMGs.

Other than the salesmen who force spider IIIs on you, my GC isn't that bad, most of the salesmen are good and helpful. They aren't overly pushy like the people at the Sam Ash next door.
Quote by Bloodavian
Its not about the Radio its about talent, the front man has a bigger vocal range than Micheal Jackson and he can sing from heavey metal to high pitched ...No.12 on the top 20 under rated guitarists of ALL TIME...etc

1-Bloodavian 0-Forkman.

^Fail^
#67
"You kids get away from those magazines, you make the pages stick together!"


Or maybe that was at my dad's barber shop, can't remember.
I wondered why the frisbee was getting bigger, then it hit me.
#68
So when I was a beginner I go in there wanting to buy the Marshall solid state half stack and he goes, " dude, you should get this Raven half stack. It's way better cuz it can go from clean to metal so not knowing anything about amps, I bought it... That was the biggest waste of money! But now I have a Mesa so who cares anymore...
#70
I am lucky, the guys at the Guitar Center near me know what they are talking about.

When I was buying my second amp after my first one died, they said that the Spider III is a good amp, which it IS for a beginner. It may not suit tonefreaks tastes, but for a beginner, the 15 watt is a good amp to start out on. Anything bigger is a waste of money, and shouldn't be used on stage. Don't get me wrong, I am not a Spider supporter, I prefer tube amps by a mile, but the Spider III was a good amp to start out on.
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#71
My friend got a bunch of money on a gift certificate to GC so he went there to get a new snare and they said that his card hasn't been authorized. They wanted us to buy a new gift card and then spend it and we were like, "dude thats a fraud and were gonna call the cops." and then finally they gave us what we wanted...
#72
Quote by papersun87
This is not necessarily bad advice.


Ive played a guitar with EMGs in it before though, the pickups didn't really seem to fit me. Theyre great for some of the heavier stuff I play like AiC and Soundgarden, but they still don't fit a good amount of what I play.
Quote by Bloodavian
Its not about the Radio its about talent, the front man has a bigger vocal range than Micheal Jackson and he can sing from heavey metal to high pitched ...No.12 on the top 20 under rated guitarists of ALL TIME...etc

1-Bloodavian 0-Forkman.

^Fail^
#74
Quote by warmark


The main reason not to shop at Guitar Center/Musician's Friend/Music123 is that they have killed off most of their competition. We need other places around in order to keep prices down and promote good customer service.



Completely true. I can tell you this much, I'm never going to guitar center again, the one by me is full of jackass's and a bunch of kids that don't know anything. Not saying that I'm full of knowledge myself, but you know what I mean.

Anyways so I finally returned Spider, I can tell the guy was pissed off I was returning it too cause It was the same guy that sold it to me. I told him that after two weeks of having it I had buyers remorse and I wasn't diggin it. I could just see in his face that he was mad, I probably screwed with his sales goals for the day. Jackass. I used to work in retail so I understand his pain, but **** man that things a piece of crap.

I need to find a local shop, the only music shops I know of around me are GuitarCenter and SamAsh. I think I'll be going to sam ash from now on.


On a kind of side note, the GC near me also sucks because although there are bunch of people workin, there is NEVER anyone around to help you out right away. I mean **** man its not THAT big of a place. No lie the last 3 times I was in there took me at least 20 mins of standing at the counter to get someone to help me, everyone just dissapeared or walked by me like i wasn't there. Learn some ****ing customer service for christ sakes

There is only one guy I know that works at that place who is cool, but only because I happen to have known him my whole life. Everyone else there is a jackass.

They just lost a customer.
#75
The guys at the GC I go to know I know my stuff now (thanks to UG) and don't try to sell me stupid stuff anymore
Call me Dom
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well if lbj pokes his head in here and there's no nuts shit's gonna go doooooooowwwwwwwwwn.



{Pedalboard Thread Native: The Muffin Man}
#76
Rep, "What ya need?"
Me, "Oh, I have like 300 to spend on accessories and pedals or whatever."
Rep, "What kind of amp are you playing out of?"
Me, "An Engl Fireball."
Rep, "Never heard of it. I could get you an awesome amp for 300. Ever hear of Line 6?"

Same day, different guy:

I walk into the high-end amp loud room.
Rep, "Hey man, what you play through?"
Me, "An Engl Fireball."
Rep, "Do you play like death metal stuff?"
Me, "Yeah."
Rep, "Wow, I can't believe you didn't get a Dual Rectifier. That's the only good amp out there for death metal."
Me, "What about this VHT Deliverance?"
Rep, "That amp doesn't do high gain."
Washburn HM Idol w/ SD JB in bridge > Ibanez Weeping Demon > Korg Pitchblack > Digitech Bad Monkey > Boss NS-2 > Boss DD-6 > Egnater Renegade > Splawn 2x12 w/ Weber Sig12Bs

#77
Quote by Austin_Scharosc

Here is the worst part, telling someone something like that can actually be detrimental to their equipment. I even asked him if they have returns for defective tubes (which is certainly not out of the question seeing that GC doesn't burn them in or test them or anything), and they do not, which makes me feel terrible for the kid who goes into that store and buys $100 worth of tubes and have them red plate on him within 5 minutes.

Even still, I told him what amp I had and he was like "yeah, those old Marshalls didn't have features like biasing, it's only something you see on modern amps."
#78
When I was looking for a guitar in the $500AUD range:
"Man, your too good for that, you should be looking at this" *gives me an rr5*
me: "Umm, its really awesome, but it's wayy to expensive"
guy: "on dw dude, just get a paper run and soon enough you'll have enough money for that and a decent amp, like this *Shows me a spider*

Call me Cam
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#79
I honestly can't stand going on there anymore. I've heard more fail in 30 minutes than I can relay. SamAsh is better by me - but that probably varies by location.
I wondered why the frisbee was getting bigger, then it hit me.
#80
Quote by al112987
Here is the worst part, telling someone something like that can actually be detrimental to their equipment. I even asked him if they have returns for defective tubes (which is certainly not out of the question seeing that GC doesn't burn them in or test them or anything), and they do not, which makes me feel terrible for the kid who goes into that store and buys $100 worth of tubes and have them red plate on him within 5 minutes.

Even still, I told him what amp I had and he was like "yeah, those old Marshalls didn't have features like biasing, it's only something you see on modern amps."






wow.....
Quote by gregs1020
Brett has been saving for a splawn for 4 years
countries have been toppled in the time it's taking, revolutions won got a black pres

yawn


Quote by bubb_tubbs
When he finally gets one it'll probably be televised like the Berlin Wall coming down.
The end of an era