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Copaman
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#1
Finished. Pics on page 7 and 8 (in 40 post per page mode)

This is what I have planned. As it's my first build, I'm buying a neck instead of making one.

Mahogany (possibly Alder. Not sure yet.) Body
24 3/4" scale Bolt-On Mahogany Neck.
22 Frets
Rosewood Fretboard
Chrome Hardware
Still unsure of the finish. Thinking about a solid color for relative ease.

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EDIT on 2/28/2010

Specs (95% final) for those interested:

Padauk Body
24 3/4" scale Bolt-On, 5-piece Sapele/Flame Maple/Sapele/FM/Sapele neck.
24 Frets on a Rosewood Fretboard, 12" radius.
TDM SHO AlNiCo 5 Bridge Pup
TUSQ XL nut
Wrap around bridge
Abalone Block inlays
Wilkinson EZ-Lok Tuners
Crome Top Hat knobs
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There aren't any pictures in the thread from before 2/28/2010! Here's Why:

I went through my Photobucket account today (2/28/2010) and reorganized everything, so all the pictures I posted in this thread had broken links. If you want to see the photos I've posted of the build from before 2/28/2010, here is a link to the album. Copa's First Build Album

All future photos will be made in posts added to the thread. Or you could just look at the album. Whichever.
build 1, finished 1/15/11

Every time I try to pick it up like falling sand,
As fast as I pick it up,
it runs away through my clutching hands.
There's nothing else I can really do...
Last edited by Copaman at May 24, 2011,
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#2
looks... Interesting.

Combo LP-Cadillac-something with a split tail?
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dude! monkey grip it! ALA the JEM! DO IT NOW!!!
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I don't care too much for the split tail, but then again, not my guitar. Overall, nice design. I think it will turn out nice.
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^yes! monkey grip!

looks cool, different

personally I'd make the bottom cutout a wee bit more flowy, but thats just my opinion.
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Quote by bv310
looks... Interesting.

Combo LP-Cadillac-something with a split tail?


Yeah... not many people have taken an instant liking to it, except for me of course

Les Paul + Explorer (Horn) + Corvus II (Tail) = Lespaulisaurus! I need a better name for it...

dude! monkey grip it! ALA the JEM! DO IT NOW!!!


If I do a grip, it'll be a full-hand ergo on the horn, similar to the Herman Li (check plz) but different.

Overall, nice design. I think it will turn out nice.


Thanks I hope it does.
build 1, finished 1/15/11

Every time I try to pick it up like falling sand,
As fast as I pick it up,
it runs away through my clutching hands.
There's nothing else I can really do...
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Quote by Copaman
Yeah... not many people have taken an instant liking to it, except for me of course

Les Paul + Explorer (Horn) + Corvus II (Tail) = Lespaulisaurus! I need a better name for it...


If I do a grip, it'll be a full-hand ergo on the horn, similar to the Herman Li (check plz) but different.


Thanks I hope it does.

I like it. No matter what, can't turn out worse than Austinzor's (which shall never be mentioned again)

The grip looks pretty cool, too.
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yeah, ive seen the Li grip. i just think the monkey grip would be better for this application. the Li grip is a lot less pronounced. the monkey grip would go well with this crazy design IMHO.
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Quote by f22master
yeah, ive seen the Li grip. i just think the monkey grip would be better for this application. the Li grip is a lot less pronounced. the monkey grip would go well with this crazy design IMHO.


Where would I put it? Bottom left in the picture above?

I like it.


Thanks
build 1, finished 1/15/11

Every time I try to pick it up like falling sand,
As fast as I pick it up,
it runs away through my clutching hands.
There's nothing else I can really do...
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i would put it here (but at a more 'ergonomical' angle)

*please excuse HORRIBLE paint skillz! i made this in 5 seconds!*
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#11
I'll have to think about it

As for a finish, any suggestions? Please keep in mind I'd like to stay halfway easy. I've started debating doing something like this, but in different colors...

build 1, finished 1/15/11

Every time I try to pick it up like falling sand,
As fast as I pick it up,
it runs away through my clutching hands.
There's nothing else I can really do...
Copaman
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Sorry for the double post. I found some earlier sketches in my notebook and I manipulated my body design to match them. Not sure which one I'll go for.

Refer to the First Post of the thread for this picture

Opinions?
build 1, finished 1/15/11

Every time I try to pick it up like falling sand,
As fast as I pick it up,
it runs away through my clutching hands.
There's nothing else I can really do...
Last edited by Copaman at Feb 28, 2010,
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#13
I was just about to say "Put some more Corvus into the ass!", and you went and did it... Congratulations. Much better. Even better if you moved the split tail a little to the bass side and maybe made the horn a little more wedge-shaped instead of almost the same thickness all the way. I like the last version, but with those changes I'll love it.
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I don't like that lip. the previous design was a little more friendly on the eyes.

as for the paint, Don't use nasty Pollock colours, Use bright contrasting colours or it'll look like someone just relieved their bowels all over it.
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#15
Quote by Pikka Bird
Even better if you moved the split tail a little to the bass side and maybe made the horn a little more wedge-shaped instead of almost the same thickness all the way.


Dunno what I'll do about the split tail - I like it at the moment but I'll think about it. As for the horn, my CAD program is constraining it weird so it's not coming out right... I was going to take my printout template and make a few changes after it prints out. That horn IS supposed to be visibly thicker towards the body.

Quote by deftonesordie
I don't like that lip. the previous design was a little more friendly on the eyes.


Like I said, the CAD program is contstraining weird. The lip will be rounded out nice and curvy-like, and the dip which goes in towards the pickups on that side will be more similar to the dip on the other side.

As for paint, the more I thought about it, the more you bring up a good point. I'll either do a solid color or a stain and clearcoat if I get some nice grain.

Still trying to decide on wood. I should have that figured out by Wednesday... a day full of school exams and work tomorrow
build 1, finished 1/15/11

Every time I try to pick it up like falling sand,
As fast as I pick it up,
it runs away through my clutching hands.
There's nothing else I can really do...
Copaman
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#16
See First Post for this Pic

New Body Design. Probably final.

Also, anybody who has an opinion - Walnut vs. Cherry! Go!
build 1, finished 1/15/11

Every time I try to pick it up like falling sand,
As fast as I pick it up,
it runs away through my clutching hands.
There's nothing else I can really do...
Last edited by Copaman at Feb 28, 2010,
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I think this one will look awesome in Cherry. Liking the design, by the way.
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I was actually more of a fan of the second design...seemed more substantial.
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Constructive criticism. That tail is going to weaken the whole body unless you switch to a neck-thru construction. Would be a terrible shame to have such an interesting design split on you.
Assuming you either do the neck-thru or lessen the split a bit, there's not a whole lot of wood there. To give it a bit of tone you might consider Walnut or Rosewood instead of Mahogany or Alder. Mahogany is fine if you get a really good piece.
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how about this? I quickly mashed up both the second and third designs for ya. I know i like it, hows about you?

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#22
Got bored in work just wondered what would rougly look like side on and stuff so



I wasnt to sure on the design but all of a sudden i like it Think you will have a Cool looking guitar when done!
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Quote by androidred0100
how about this? I quickly mashed up both the second and third designs for ya. I know i like it, hows about you?



IMO i think that is best looking one
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#25
to be honest, i hate the shape. But then when i think about it - I used to hate teles and like strats
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#26
Keep the second design but make a RG or Gibson SG style lower horn.
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#28
that 'quarter-pipe' cut feels really out of place IMO.
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#30
Quote by blandguitar
is it me or is the TOM reverse angled?

edit: i was looking at the tailpiece but the tom area looks funny too.


It's probably the program/possibly the picture I used to outline the shape of a LP. I might not have traced the lines properly, or it was just angled funny in the picture. Or, worse yet, it's angled funny on my Epi LP... Not that it really matters in the Computer design. I'm going with a wraparound bridge, btw.

For the guy who said the horn seems a bit thin - I actually made it thicker from design 2 to design 3. Not much, but thicker. I thought it was too thin as well.

For whoever said that I should do an RG or SG horn - I don't think it'd go too well, TBH. I planned the cutout and the horn to be ROUGHLY parallel in the side-on view, which someone has posted for us. Look at the top side of the cutout tail, and then the bottom side of the horn, and they're almost there.

Deftonesordie - I agree.

lp_std: +1

Androidred0100: It's like a more br00tal version of mine :P - That's what you should stick the RG horn on!


Lurcher: Thank you. I had no idea. Because I'm a noob. I will now go lessen the depth of the tail split.


MrDimmu - all you had to do was request a side-on shot! I coulda just rotated it! Thanks though
build 1, finished 1/15/11

Every time I try to pick it up like falling sand,
As fast as I pick it up,
it runs away through my clutching hands.
There's nothing else I can really do...
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Yeah i no i could BUT that wouldnt of Occupied me for 15 mins at work

I nearly Laser cut a blank out of plywood to see i was that bored :p
Last edited by MrDimmu at Jun 18, 2009,
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Quote by MrDimmu
I nearly Laser cut a blank out of plywood to see i was that bored :p


Should've done it
build 1, finished 1/15/11

Every time I try to pick it up like falling sand,
As fast as I pick it up,
it runs away through my clutching hands.
There's nothing else I can really do...
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If boss is out tomoz and i got time il Laser one out

Il post a pic up etc il make sure i take a cam in or something!
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I'm likin the ideas here!

The second one was probably the best idea. It looked much smoother than the others (though it did almost look exactly like a Corvus)
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#36
Quote by MrDimmu
If boss is out tomoz and i got time il Laser one out

Il post a pic up etc il make sure i take a cam in or something!


DO IT!

Design 3, please, with a little less to the split tail (i.e. not so close to the bridge)

Side note - probably ordering wood and bridge tomorrow from eBay, as well as finalizing my template. It will be design 3 with a little less split tail after whoever's suggestion that it would weaken the guitar too much.
build 1, finished 1/15/11

Every time I try to pick it up like falling sand,
As fast as I pick it up,
it runs away through my clutching hands.
There's nothing else I can really do...
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Quote by Copaman
Androidred0100: It's like a more br00tal version of mine :P - That's what you should stick the RG horn on!



Ha ha, yeah for real. An RG horn would be epic. I might mock that up just for kicks.

Funny thing is I really did do my absolute best to keep it as close to the mix between #2 and #3 as posible. The only thing that's different really is the tailpiece cutaway since someone said it was a problem.

Anyway, good luck. I shall definitely be keeping an eye out on this one
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Thanks man. I'm glad to see I've started drumming up some support. Kinda pumped too... anxious and nervous a little maybe.
build 1, finished 1/15/11

Every time I try to pick it up like falling sand,
As fast as I pick it up,
it runs away through my clutching hands.
There's nothing else I can really do...
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..interesting.
I'll be watching from the shadows..


Walnut, ftw!


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An update, jam packed with surprises and pictures to come a little later tonight:

Today, I bought the wood I need for the body and the neck.

Here's what the guitar will finally be made of:

Two piece Padauk (zomg! Surprise!) body.
Three laminate neck(another surprise! I wasn't going to make a neck!): Cherry/Cocobolo/Cherry

The wood is fairly nice too, so I might be going with a clear lacquer finish.
build 1, finished 1/15/11

Every time I try to pick it up like falling sand,
As fast as I pick it up,
it runs away through my clutching hands.
There's nothing else I can really do...