Trapper33
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Just looking to expand my range, so what modes and scales does Satriani use?

Thanks
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him and various other guitarists play in mixolydian mode.
he plays alot of different modes but he is partial to mixolydian.
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It's not quite as simple as "what scales does he use?" , what's important is that he composes his music in such a way that it suggests a particuar scale or mode.

The scales aren't actually as important as the chord progressions he constructs.
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He likes using Lydian mode and Phrygian Dominant alot so I hear. But the guy knows so much music theory, like nearly if not all scales/modes in every key. But the two that I listed would be a good start. Good luck.
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Some people already mentioned it but he is really partial to the lydian, and myxolydian sound
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I think he's somewhat partial to Lydian. He's said so in earlier interviews.

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He does play Lydian alot, but not nearly as much as you guys give credit for.

Vai uses Lydian alot.

He favours Mixolydian mode above all.

But in all truth, Satriani uses all of them + variants, which sometimes have their own scale names as well, but joe refers to them as Dorian#4 and stuff.

I also like to name scales with 7 notes other then modes like that, for ease of use.

I made a list of scales he uses and where;

Ionian (Major):

Always with you, always with me
Friends
Starry night
Love Thing
Just look up

Dorian :
First melody Surfing with the alien
Asik Vaysel Melody

Phrygian:
War
Redshift Riders
Devil's Slide
Gnaaah

Lydian:

Flying in a blue dream melody
Lords of Karma first melody.
(John Petrucci - Curve)

Mixolydian:
Main melody of Summer Song
Intro of Raspberry Jam Delta-V, and he uses that for most of the song.

Aeolian (minor):
Made of Tears
Searching

Locrian:

Nothing s far as I know.
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Phrygian Dominant;
Hordes of locust first melody

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Quote by xxdarrenxx
He doesn't play lydian that much at all.

Vai uses Lydian alot.

He actually favours Phrygian and Phrygian dominant quite much, as well as heavily favouring mixolydian.

But in all truth, Satriani uses all of them + variants, which sometimes have their own scale names as well, but joe refers to them as Dorian#4 and stuff.

I also like to name scales with 7 notes other then modes like that, for ease of use.

Here are some examples for you;

Ionian (Major):

Always with you, always with me
Friends

Dorian :
First melody Surfing with the alien
Asik Vaysel Melody

Phrygian:
War
Redshift Riders
Devil's Slide


Lydian:

Flying in a blue dream melody
(John Petrucci - Curve)

Mixolydian:
Main melody of Summer Song
Intro of Raspberry Jam Delta-V, and he uses that for most of the song.

Aeolian:
Made of Tears

Locrian:

Nothing s far as I know.


He uses Phrygian Dominant in alot of the solo within Surfing with the Alien, and I always thought that he used some form of Dorian in Always with me, Always with you. Man, he uses alot. It's great to read and learn from him.
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He uses Phrygian Dominant in alot of the solo within Surfing with the Alien, and I always thought that he used some form of Dorian in Always with me, Always with you. Man, he uses alot. It's great to read and learn from him.



Yup Phrygian Dominant during solo.

Always with you always with me is Major, not Dorian.

It's the most obvious major example there is

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Quote by xxdarrenxx
Yup Phrygian Dominant during solo.

Always with you always with me is Major, not Dorian.

It's the most obvious major example there is



Hehe, my bad. B major.
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Hehe, my bad. B major.


Np;

Added more to the list.

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Do you know how to properly use modes?


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I made 2 lessons on them (links in my sig).

They are written quite a while ago, so my English is a bit sketchy, but if you don't understand anything feel free to pm me.

Also, the 2nd link is written in a train of thought way, as in I wrote down directly what came into my head, but if u read carefully you will understand.

The first link "the musical modes" is more a summary of what they are about, and the 2nd link "how to make modal chord progressions" is info on how to get used to their sounds through the use of static chord progressions.

I reccomend using the approach in my 2nd link, soley because not only do you learn modes, but if you improvise like that through the different modes, you will develop an ear for intervals, and will increase ur overall hearing and writing.

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Quote by xxdarrenxx
I made 2 lessons on them (links in my sig).

They are written quite a while ago, so my English is a bit sketchy, but if you don't understand anything feel free to pm me.

The first link "the musical modes" is more a summary of what they are about, and the 2nd link "how to make modal chord progressions" is info on how to get used to their sounds through the use of static chord progressions.

I reccomend using the approach in my 2nd link, soley because not only do you learn modes, but if you improvise like that through the different modes, you will develop an ear for intervals, and will increase ur overall hearing and writing.


Thanks, this'll help me understand the modal process much better, and help me keep my chords progs/solos more interesting for me. Thanks, stickied and saved.
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All of them I'm serious. There's a YouTube video of Joe playing all seven modes of the major scale in the key of E.
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Quote by xxdarrenxx
He does play Lydian alot, but not nearly as much as you guys give credit for.

Vai uses Lydian alot.

He favours Mixolydian mode above all.

But in all truth, Satriani uses all of them + variants, which sometimes have their own scale names as well, but joe refers to them as Dorian#4 and stuff.

I also like to name scales with 7 notes other then modes like that, for ease of use.

I made a list of scales he uses and where;

Ionian (Major):

Always with you, always with me
Friends
Starry night
Love Thing
Just look up

Dorian :
First melody Surfing with the alien
Asik Vaysel Melody

Phrygian:
War
Redshift Riders
Devil's Slide
Gnaaah

Lydian:

Flying in a blue dream melody
Lords of Karma first melody.
(John Petrucci - Curve)

Mixolydian:
Main melody of Summer Song
Intro of Raspberry Jam Delta-V, and he uses that for most of the song.

Aeolian (minor):
Made of Tears
Searching

Locrian:

Nothing s far as I know.
--------------------------------------
Phrygian Dominant;
Hordes of locust first melody


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