#1
I am getting a new guitar soon, and i am torn between the Schecter Tempest Blackjack and the Schecter C-1FR Blackjack. I have played on both, and i love them both, but i don't know what to get, so if someone could give me some input, i'd be grateful.

Blackjack Tempest:

Pros:

- Very Nice Look
- Very Nice Tone

Cons:

- Scale is only 24.75
- 22 Frets


C-1FR:

Pros:

- Very Nice Tone
- Floyd Rose
- 25.5 Scale
- 22 Frets

Cons:

- I dislike the position of the 3way switch... alot
- The body style is kinda boring, it's a classic style that i like, but the Tempest has much more appeal to it

So idk what to do. The C-1FR seems like the better choice, but i am so drawn to the look of the Tempest. Does anyone have a 2nd opinion for me?
#2
Get the C1 since the cons aren't that bad. The cons for the Tempest are playability and that's very important. You probably won't be changing pickup positions often anyway.
#3
I would go with the c-1fr because its got the floyd rose and also because the others three way is even harder to switch while playing, but i like both body types
#4
Never sacrifice tone, feel, or features for looks. Having it all is the goal but aesthetics don't help you make music.

How often would you use a Floyd Rose? If you think you'll use it fairly often, I would pick the C-1. I'd say the FR is the biggest difference between the guitars.

24 frets isn't necessarily a huge advantage. You move the neck pickup away from a great spot tone-wise to gain a little easier navigation and two notes. (Only the high E string has notes you couldn't otherwise play. The extra frets can make some phrases easier to play though.) I would only make it a priority if you think you'll need the extra frets regularly.

24¾" scale can be an advantage. Sounds a little chunkier and moves the frets closer together. It can also sound muddier than a 25½" neck and get cramped on the higher notes. I've got guitars with both, I've never really made it a big point.
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#6
That Ibanez is ridiculous. 27 frets is 100% unnecessary.

As far as tone goes, they both sounded about the same, probably due to using the same pickups, but i would like to use the FR. I don't NEED one, as i don't have one atm, but i think it would be a nice addition. Plus the guitars are the same price.

Edit: I would NEVER buy an Ibanez. I don't know why, but i just hate them. I am, however, a HUGE schecter fan.
#7
I see you already have several stoptail guitars. I'd get the C-1 with Floyd Rose then.
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#9
Just wait until you start dropping $1899 for a guitar. Then it seems cheap.
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#10
I Guess, but you don't NEED to spend that much on a guitar.

Back to the thread topic, where can i get a 2009 Blackjack Edition of the C-1? Is there some hidden button that will take me to the store on Schecters website, or am i going to have to go to ebay or musicians friend etc etc?
#11
why is having 22 frets a con for the first guitar and its a pro for the other one?
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#14
Quote by Knightmare444
I Guess, but you don't NEED to spend that much on a guitar.


That depends on what you want. I have 50 year old whiskey tastes, the guitar equivalent of a Bud Light doesn't do it for me. (though my budget is more Bud Light than, say, Glenlivet XXV) I'll never be satisfied with it. So I save my shekels and buy expensive stuff, rather than waste time being disappointed in more moderately priced guitars.

Most of my neighbors do fine with beer though.
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Quote by Knightmare444
That Ibanez is ridiculous. 27 frets is 100% unnecessary.
I would NEVER buy an Ibanez. I don't know why, but i just hate them. I am, however, a HUGE schecter fan.

God, soo many people are like that, lol its rather annoying. For the price ibanez are normally amazing guitars. Schecters are nice aswell.
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#17
Why is 22 frets a con for the first one, and a pro for the second one?

edit: beaten + beat some other guy () and we still have no answer.
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#18
I had a bad experience with an Ibanez. My uncle has like 16/17 guitars (literally) and a few were Ibanez. I played one through a Marshall MV, and nothing but buzz, so i switched to a Fender combo amp and still buzz. So i tried a different guitar, still an Ibanez, and the neck snapped in two when i tried picking it up. :S

My uncle has the Tempest Classic, and it is amazing, and i played the C-1 at a local music store, and now i am here. lol
#20
Quote by Knightmare444
That Ibanez is ridiculous. 27 frets is 100% unnecessary.

As far as tone goes, they both sounded about the same, probably due to using the same pickups, but i would like to use the FR. I don't NEED one, as i don't have one atm, but i think it would be a nice addition. Plus the guitars are the same price.

Edit: I would NEVER buy an Ibanez. I don't know why, but i just hate them. I am, however, a HUGE schecter fan.



If you love Schecters, with their necks, an Ibanez is the last guitar you want. However, 27 frets gives you better access to the other 24.